KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum How long should FSG give Kenny

The fans are getting impatient because kenny was given 100+ million, which most managers dont't have, and he spent it on [oops]. Had he spent them wisely and used on right players we wouldn't be feeling bad for some draws and losses.

A lot of comments here are about patience, frustration etc.
Fundamental questions:
How long would you accept to not be in the top 4 (due to building)
How long are you happy for us to build until we challenge for the top spot

I would not accept anything less than the top 4 now.
I would expect us to start challenging within 2-4 years. Ideally 2 years, but if I see progression year on year i would accept us to prolong it for a few years.

NOTE: This takes into consideration Financial Fair Play Rules core value: Spend within your means.

If your timelines are much longer than mine than I understand why you would give Kenny several years regardless of results (which is what I read when I see patience without real timelines and milestones etc)

Helloooo, when are going to appoint Graeme Souness as our next manager - wait a minute, let's ask Gerard Houllier to take on the job. Hold it right there - Roy Hodson is the man, bring it on.

I'm not sure I'm entirely comfortable with Kenny staying if we finish further from 4th than we are now. That would indicate a lack of progress despite a large change in personnel and a full season to allow them to gel. The really good partnerships tend to just fall into place (eg Gerrard-Torres), but many of our new guys don't seem to bring more to Liverpool than we had already, and what we had wasn't the best.

We agree that we're building for the future, but we need to see the signs that the foundations are solid. Right now there are too many questions to suggest that the foundation is more solid than it was a year ago. We've had no European competition to distract us either, so fitness should not have been an issue (and outside Lucas's injury it hasn't really). We had the dominoes set to fall, but somehow they're not dropping.

Credit for reaching the Carling Cup final, absolutely, but we can't let such sideshows distract us from the truth that we need to be in the Champions' League for us to threaten to win the title one day.

The larger issue is: if we sack Kenny, who comes in? Souness, who many think destroyed the club? Rafa, who many think destroyed the club? Another mid-table manager who could be shown up to be another Hodgson? Stop thinking about Mourinho - we don't want him and he doesn't want us. Who else is there? Ancellotti? Rijkaard? Maybe we're better off keeping the King anyway.

I still think the way to go is a fresh young manager with new ideas, we have had the tactician types, the so called old wise men, former players even the so called best managers at the time and none have worked now is the time to do something completely different and bring in a Klopp, Brendan Rogers or Paul Lambert and give them a fair go, lets face it, they cant be any worse than what we have had.

I don't think the Carling cup alone will be enough. Kanny needs something else with it to show progress maybe sucess in the FA cup or getting 5th say. 4th place has to be the goal but some other sucess this season might give him another season.

I am really pleased to be through to Wembley Stanley but I would be absolutely gutted if I thought getting there would in any way sway the decision John Henry will hopefuly be making at the end of the season. I would even go as far as to say if you gave me a choice of going out tonight as long as the manager was gone in the summer I would snatch your hand off, as good as it feels getting there tonight and what it means to the Club and fans all it does really is papers over the massive cracks like a big plaster.

well that wont be happening mate, hes here to stay get used to it. come on you reds

Have to disagree with you there I fully expect John Henry to do the right thing in the summer, cant really see him going back on his word when he said 4th place minimum after his investment.

Nobody has a job at Liverpool football club unless they perform. That means no player is guarenteed a place the same applies to a manager. Thought you would know that Irish Kop.

That said all is not lost yet and sucess in the cup could be the turning point. Lets hope so.