KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum It just occured to me watching MOTD.....

None of the players mentioned in my opinion are world class. I know that.

But there has to be a point, where we look at the players let go, to the ones we have now...and I seriously think some, if not most, of those players mentioned would do a better job, than the ones we have now and have brought in over the recent transfer windows.

I agree that most of them aren't really any good, I know that.

But would you rather have Keane up front, or Carroll?

Would you rather have Jermaine Pennant (who at least crosses when need be) or Stewart Downing?

Would you rather have Danny Murphy or Charlie Adam? At least Danny Murphy can still move with the football. He's not just a penalty, set piece and a corner kick.

Would you not have Stephen Warnock and/or Risse as backup?

Would you not have Danny Guthrie in the squad, given games like Jay Spearing?

Would you not have kept Daniel Ayala, a hard to come by footballing centre-back. Who we let go for less than a million. Who may I add played well for us, in the few games he played.

David Ngog the exception here, because we fetched nearly £5million for him....he is not worth that.

However I do FULLY believe that he scored more and offered more, in the air and on the deck. Than Carroll at this moment.

After the words said by Dalglish after the Bolton game. I wan't to see actions now, if these players do not pick it up, give 100% at the VERY LEAST. Then I want to see these players gone.

Sorry but Pennant was the worst signing we ever had as a winger. The assists and goal threats from him were virtually nil. I was there for that great goal v Chelsea but that was all he ever did. For a winger he always made the wrong decisions or no decision at all. The one on that list who should have stayed was Murphy. I was shocked when we let him go.

Have to disagree, the champions league game vs AC Milan in 2007, he was man of the match that night and was quality.

He did have good games, we just expected too much of an average player.

and me, totally.

Let's not look at the names or whether they are world class or not. Look at the stats and the facts, Jermaine Pennant offers more and does more productively than Stewart Downing. Downing at Villa, like Carroll at Newcastle were far far far better than what we see now. Downing was bought for Carroll, Carroll was bought for goals.

Downing was THE best crosser in the league, and created more goals from crosses than anybody else in the league. He also had a wicked left foot and SOLID right foot. Ability to play on both wings, come in side, beat his player on the outside, the lot. The perfect winger.

What has he done for us?

I don't think I've seen him put a good cross in at all when he has played. Much like Charlie Adam ESPECIALLY with his corners being worth £10mill!

Andy Carroll has not had the service, neither has he put the effort in to cover that.

Jermaine Pennant, don't look at the name, look at what he done for us, basic at most, but he delivered the ball.

Has Stewart Downing done it for us?

Has he had a stand out game like Pennant in the champions league final?

You should be able to answer it yourself, surely.