fair post and correct , liverpool have start living in the present and future and not the past i see the call for benitez is raring it ugly head again , just pure blind sentiment nothing more nothing less , going back to past glories is not moving the club forward its standing still and creeping backwards even the call for torres to return just blind sentiment .
Faz... just bcause you don't agree with something doesn't make it pure blind sentiment.
There was some logic to Dalglish's appointment. He was a unifying factor and someone who could provide some stability. in the short term, he succeeded on these aspects. In addition, if things worked out, it would be a fantastic footballing story and a huge boost for the club. That side of things was gamble which isn't happening at the moment. But that doesn't make it a blind appointment.
One thing is for sure is that there is no obvious candidate who can guarantee success. So are we going to sack the manager every season we don't get 4th place? That's as recipe for total self destruction.
Yes thats exactly what we do, sack managers until we get the right one, this is how all big Clubs operate, Madrid done it before Mourinho, Barca done it before Rykaaard and Guardiola, even United did it before Ferguson. If you have a business and the man in charge is not up to the task do you keep him there while you slip further behind your competitors or do you ship him out and get someone in who can do the Job.
Yes, but are you really suggesting we sack the manager each season if 4th place or above isn't achieved?
The point is, unless the person is a total misfit (which KK is not) or you have a strategy of providing unlimited funds, then you can't expect immediate success. The manager needs to be given time of say 3-5 seasons before reaching the ultimate goal. Of course he would need to show improvement in that time, but along the way he may also make mistakes or some gambles may not come off, all of which would need to be allowed for.
Regarding the clubs you mentioned:
Fergie - took him 6 or 7 seasons to win the league. Had they followed your approach he would've been sacked within first season.
Real Madrid spent huge amounts on individual transfers. they were able to go out and buy the best players available in quiet a few positions I suspect. In such circumstances it might be fair to expect success immediately - but perhaps still unrealistic. Just look at Man City. In any case, we're not in that position, so it's going to take any manager a little longer to build a team.
In the few years before Rijkaard, when Barcelona seemed to have a new manger every season they won nothing. And this is what is written about Rijkaard:
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Rijkaard had a disappointing start at Barcelona that saw some sections of the club's fans call for his resignation, and he drew flak from the media when the team lost to Real Madrid in December 2003.[3] Rijkaard's resilience won through and
from 2004 onwards, he achieved a massive turnaround, as the team went from strength to strength. Barcelona finished runners-up in La Liga in 2003–04,
having been close to the relegation zone at one point in the earlier stages of the season. Rijkaard then took Barcelona to the next level as he phased out the old guard and rebuilt a new-look side around Ronaldinho, with new players like Deco, Samuel Eto'o, Rafael Márquez and Ludovic Giuly, along with the latest promotion of some young players from the previous era trained in the club's youth teams (i.e. Víctor Valdés, Carles Puyol, Xavi and Andrés Iniesta).
He eventually succeeded in turning around the fortunes of the club, with the strong support of Laporta,
and within the next couple of years finally managed to win La Liga both in 2004–05 and in 2005–06.'
i.e. he wasn't an instant success. It took him time build a team and get the team playing according to his philosophy.