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Thats fair comment N Liverpool. You may disagree but you have to say its a fair point. But at the end of the day every manager is judged on results.
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I have also looked at some other LFC forums excatly the same discussion is going on the unswerving faith in the king vs the doubters. Only one thing will settle it performances and progression to top 4.
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now dalglsih is howard kendall?. maybe you as an everton fan think they are in the same league but i dont.
he put the liverpool back in liverpool fc during a time when we had lost our soul to G and H.
look you are clearly on here as some kind of joke with your blue mates down the pub i.e. "ha ha i wind up lfc fans on an lfc forum and keep getting banned" but im sure the joke has worn thin for them. How can I be winding people up if I am making valid points, Your right the Club was a mess under Hicks and Gillette, Hodgson was brought in just to oversea the sale of the Club nothing more nothing less and Dalglish should of been brought in to caretaker the Club until the end of the season when Hodgson left, to make him a permanent manager and even give him about 130 million pounds is gross incompetence on the part of John Henry and his consortium. I think my point that it is on the same scale as Everton appointing Howie and Newcastle appointing Keegan is spot on. All these appointments are nothing to do with footballing reasons and everything to do with he call what these managers did in the past and who they were as in there standings withing the football Clubs, this is why making them managers on that basis is always doomed to failure which is what we are seeing now and why this forum is jammed with unhappy fans. fair post and correct , liverpool have start living in the present and future and not the past i see the call for benitez is raring it ugly head again , just pure blind sentiment nothing more nothing less , going back to past glories is not moving the club forward its standing still and creeping backwards even the call for torres to return just blind sentiment .
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now dalglsih is howard kendall?. maybe you as an everton fan think they are in the same league but i dont.
he put the liverpool back in liverpool fc during a time when we had lost our soul to G and H.
look you are clearly on here as some kind of joke with your blue mates down the pub i.e. "ha ha i wind up lfc fans on an lfc forum and keep getting banned" but im sure the joke has worn thin for them. How can I be winding people up if I am making valid points, Your right the Club was a mess under Hicks and Gillette, Hodgson was brought in just to oversea the sale of the Club nothing more nothing less and Dalglish should of been brought in to caretaker the Club until the end of the season when Hodgson left, to make him a permanent manager and even give him about 130 million pounds is gross incompetence on the part of John Henry and his consortium. I think my point that it is on the same scale as Everton appointing Howie and Newcastle appointing Keegan is spot on. All these appointments are nothing to do with footballing reasons and everything to do with he call what these managers did in the past and who they were as in there standings withing the football Clubs, this is why making them managers on that basis is always doomed to failure which is what we are seeing now and why this forum is jammed with unhappy fans. fair post and correct , liverpool have start living in the present and future and not the past i see the call for benitez is raring it ugly head again , just pure blind sentiment nothing more nothing less , going back to past glories is not moving the club forward its standing still and creeping backwards even the call for torres to return just blind sentiment . This is one of my biggest arguments with the Club and fans, why oh why do we keep going back to the past, if it's not managers, it's what we have won, if it's not that it's old expectation levels and so on and so forth, when will fans understand we are no longer the same Club, that one was finished long ago, we need a whole new foundation stone to build on and until we get that we will never move forward.
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empty rhetoric.
we only went back once. dalglish. and that was to steady the ship and get us back on course.
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fair post and correct , liverpool have start living in the present and future and not the past i see the call for benitez is raring it ugly head again , just pure blind sentiment nothing more nothing less , going back to past glories is not moving the club forward its standing still and creeping backwards even the call for torres to return just blind sentiment . Faz... just bcause you don't agree with something doesn't make it pure blind sentiment. There was some logic to Dalglish's appointment. He was a unifying factor and someone who could provide some stability. in the short term, he succeeded on these aspects. In addition, if things worked out, it would be a fantastic footballing story and a huge boost for the club. That side of things was gamble which isn't happening at the moment. But that doesn't make it a blind appointment. One thing is for sure is that there is no obvious candidate who can guarantee success. So are we going to sack the manager every season we don't get 4th place? That's as recipe for total self destruction.
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fair post and correct , liverpool have start living in the present and future and not the past i see the call for benitez is raring it ugly head again , just pure blind sentiment nothing more nothing less , going back to past glories is not moving the club forward its standing still and creeping backwards even the call for torres to return just blind sentiment . Faz... just bcause you don't agree with something doesn't make it pure blind sentiment. There was some logic to Dalglish's appointment. He was a unifying factor and someone who could provide some stability. in the short term, he succeeded on these aspects. In addition, if things worked out, it would be a fantastic footballing story and a huge boost for the club. That side of things was gamble which isn't happening at the moment. But that doesn't make it a blind appointment. One thing is for sure is that there is no obvious candidate who can guarantee success. So are we going to sack the manager every season we don't get 4th place? That's as recipe for total self destruction. I know why don't we just accept we are no longer good enough and lets lower our sights a little. Newcastle fans seem to manage fine they are a happy bunch right? I say give King Kenny a job for life as manager we have had our success in the past and lets now accept us for what we are. Everyone will be happier in the long run. So thats sorted then....
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fair post and correct , liverpool have start living in the present and future and not the past i see the call for benitez is raring it ugly head again , just pure blind sentiment nothing more nothing less , going back to past glories is not moving the club forward its standing still and creeping backwards even the call for torres to return just blind sentiment . Faz... just bcause you don't agree with something doesn't make it pure blind sentiment. There was some logic to Dalglish's appointment. He was a unifying factor and someone who could provide some stability. in the short term, he succeeded on these aspects. In addition, if things worked out, it would be a fantastic footballing story and a huge boost for the club. That side of things was gamble which isn't happening at the moment. But that doesn't make it a blind appointment. One thing is for sure is that there is no obvious candidate who can guarantee success. So are we going to sack the manager every season we don't get 4th place? That's as recipe for total self destruction. I know why don't we just accept we are no longer good enough and lets lower our sights a little. Newcastle fans seem to manage fine they are a happy bunch right? I say give King Kenny a job for life as manager we have had our success in the past and lets now accept us for what we are. Everyone will be happier in the long run. So thats sorted then.... It's not about lowering our standards. It's about having a realistic plan to get back to where we want to be. Unless we have a blank cheque, it's not going to happen overnight. Did you see the games today? We're nowhere near the quality of City, United and Tottenham.... and we're probably techinically not as good as Arsenal. So if anyone thinks that any manager is gonna make us regular top 4 and title challengers in one season without huge investment then I think they're deluded. If that's correct then it's likely that we won't always be top 4, in which case do we sack the manager every time we miss top 4? What I'm saying is that if we don't have money like City or Chelsea, then becoming a quality top 4 side is going to take 3 to 5 years and some smart thinking and action. those 3-5 years may include some years where we don't make top 4, but we can't just sack the manager every time that happens.
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Well we have had huge investment other than city / chelsea we have all spent massively more and its all gone to waste.
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