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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
He was doing all that at 21. Its unfair to compare Henderson to him and I wish people would not do it.


It's also untrue

In his early 20s it was obvious that Gerrard was going to be a stand out, world class player

I've seen nothing from Henderson to even suggest he's in the same bracket

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I can't see FSG sacking Kenny but he must know in himself that he isn;t up to the job anymore. His tactics are out of date, his signings have been terrible and his team selections bizarre at times.


I'm not goinbg to call for Kenny's head - there are hardly any viable replacements I can think of out there - but i think your assessment above is completely fair

We all thought that things couldn't get worst after the last 2 seasons, yet having spent £100m - or at least £75 on utter garbage - we seem just as ineffective as last season and if Agger and Skrtel hadn't really stepped up their game this season I'm left thinking that it could - and perhaps should - be even worst

Like him thohgh we all do, it hasn't happened in any way whatsoever for Daglish in his second coming - not that ytou'd know that when yiu hwar the fans sing his name after another goaless draw against a bottom of the table side - or the posters on here who have convenintly forgot that their earlier predictions of glory this seasoin have made them look like complete and utter chumps


Who were they, Jim?


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Originally Posted By: Jim Tonez
Originally Posted By: CarheeX

I can't see FSG sacking Kenny but he must know in himself that he isn;t up to the job anymore. His tactics are out of date, his signings have been terrible and his team selections bizarre at times.


I'm not goinbg to call for Kenny's head - there are hardly any viable replacements I can think of out there - but i think your assessment above is completely fair

We all thought that things couldn't get worst after the last 2 seasons, yet having spent £100m - or at least £75 on utter garbage - we seem just as ineffective as last season and if Agger and Skrtel hadn't really stepped up their game this season I'm left thinking that it could - and perhaps should - be even worst

Like him thohgh we all do, it hasn't happened in any way whatsoever for Daglish in his second coming - not that ytou'd know that when yiu hwar the fans sing his name after another goaless draw against a bottom of the table side - or the posters on here who have convenintly forgot that their earlier predictions of glory this seasoin have made them look like complete and utter chumps


Dalglish got 67points in his first 38games. More than any of the last 5 LFC managers did since we'll .....Dalglish! I will say again 14 players out and 7players in as well as new coaching staff. The man's done miracles, More than Mancini in his first season and Hughes who collectively spent 300mil in their first season of games. Mourinho was better though, then again Ranieri had bought Cech, Robben, Lampard, Cole, Mutu, Crespo for 150mil the 2 seasons before him.

so who do I compare him against then?

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Originally Posted By: cp1972
Originally Posted By: Jim Tonez
Originally Posted By: CarheeX

I can't see FSG sacking Kenny but he must know in himself that he isn;t up to the job anymore. His tactics are out of date, his signings have been terrible and his team selections bizarre at times.


I'm not goinbg to call for Kenny's head - there are hardly any viable replacements I can think of out there - but i think your assessment above is completely fair

We all thought that things couldn't get worst after the last 2 seasons, yet having spent £100m - or at least £75 on utter garbage - we seem just as ineffective as last season and if Agger and Skrtel hadn't really stepped up their game this season I'm left thinking that it could - and perhaps should - be even worst

Like him thohgh we all do, it hasn't happened in any way whatsoever for Daglish in his second coming - not that ytou'd know that when yiu hwar the fans sing his name after another goaless draw against a bottom of the table side - or the posters on here who have convenintly forgot that their earlier predictions of glory this seasoin have made them look like complete and utter chumps


Dalglish got 67points in his first 38games. More than any of the last 5 LFC managers did since we'll .....Dalglish! I will say again 14 players out and 7players in as well as new coaching staff. The man's done miracles, More than Mancini in his first season and Hughes who collectively spent 300mil in their first season of games. Mourinho was better though, then again Ranieri had bought Cech, Robben, Lampard, Cole, Mutu, Crespo for 150mil the 2 seasons before him.

so who do I compare him against then?


Good stats there, cp. There are certain fans who expect instant success though, so that will never be good enough for them. Fourth place was always the aim for this season, with any talk of title challenges vastly premature.

At the moment, 4th place is still within our reach, although we're not favourites for it at the moment. Our competitors for it - Arsenal & Chelsea have both got to visit Anfield - these games will be vital 6-pointers. Our overall form will need to improve too, but regardless of what happens, the end of the season will be time for evaluation and reflection, and the manager and the team can be judged then.


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Bari I agree end of season is the time to judge Dalglish but if we carry on this trajectory it’s going to be very lively debate indeed,


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Using stats of yesteryear are irrelevant in determining how well Kenny is doing. He can ONLY be judged on the league position. So what if the current points tally would have put us in 4th place 6 or 7 years ago?
This underlines how much the teams around us have improved - that's not to say we have gone backwards, but we've moved forwards more slowly than all of our competitors and the main reason for that is our poor signings.

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ok then what about lucas. showed no potential, was rubbish for ages, now he is one of the most valuable players in the squad. consider the possibility that these paid professional managers and trainers see something we dont.

except with carroll. he's garbage.


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Fine. But if you've been given an objective of getting your team up to 4th place this season you don't spend huge amounts of money on unproven potential - you spend it on players that can make a difference NOW so that we can keep up with the top clubs, and compete in the competitions that will be financially beneficial which will in turn allow us to attract quality players. That's the logical approach anyway.

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Kd will be judged on his end of season points tally, his signings, and success..if any in cup competitions.

and wat position the team ends up ie top 4, top 6 or top 10.

and how many points away from the team that wins the EPL title.

football is a results business, only good as ur last result, i no KD is a LEGEND at the club, but he is not immune from the sack.

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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
Using stats of yesteryear are irrelevant in determining how well Kenny is doing. He can ONLY be judged on the league position. So what if the current points tally would have put us in 4th place 6 or 7 years ago?
This underlines how much the teams around us have improved - that's not to say we have gone backwards, but we've moved forwards more slowly than all of our competitors and the main reason for that is our poor signings.


I'll have to try remember what quote for future reference...


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