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I think the better question would be "Does anybody know whether we're going to bring anyone in or not". Everything said it this thread is speculation and personal opinion based on very little. To add to that, I don't think we'll sign 2-3 players. I do think we'll sign one player though, or 2 at the most. A striker is an absolute must. I think that if we reach February 1st and we haven't signed a striker, then we won't be achieving a 4th place finish. That's not to say it's not going to happen if we don't sign a striker, or that it will happen if we do sign a striker, but my opinion is that if we don't sign one then we won't have enough firepower to get us into the top 4.


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Originally Posted By: BarLennon
I think the better question would be "Does anybody know whether we're going to bring anyone in or not". Everything said it this thread is speculation and personal opinion based on very little. To add to that, I don't think we'll sign 2-3 players. I do think we'll sign one player though, or 2 at the most. A striker is an absolute must. I think that if we reach February 1st and we haven't signed a striker, then we won't be achieving a 4th place finish. That's not to say it's not going to happen if we don't sign a striker, or that it will happen if we do sign a striker, but my opinion is that if we don't sign one then we won't have enough firepower to get us into the top 4.


Not at all, considering we don't know anything anyway. That's why hence "think" Do you think that we wont bring anyone in this January?

So in a way it is speculation, but there is nothing wrong with the title.

We all know what we need, it's whether or not the club get the right players.

The question is based on the fact that in the last window, we got our business done quickly and quietly. Kenny said that we can bring players in if we want to.

But what is your gut feeling, do you think we will this January?

I'm lagging, I don't think we will myself, the longer the transfer window goes on.


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I don't think we will because last January we got our fingers burnt. We dont want any more failures on the books right now. Time for a rethink and rebuild again in close season. I know 4th is still on but mathematically only for me we have too many who are just not good enough and we are nowhere near consistent enough to go on a run of games.

I could be wrong I know stuff all but thats my gut feel.


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After their money was spent so horrendously in summer I think FSG would be very reluctant to give this manager (bnot to mention Comoli) more money on the basis it's likely to be wasted

We used to struggle to get certain top-quality even when we were a top 4 team and one of the best iun Europe during Rafa's reign

Now we're a team struggling to get in the top 7, i can't see us getting anyone half devcent and the likes of Defoe and Sinclair are the best we can hope for

Besifdes, top 4 was the brief when kenny got the job so who knows if he'll be manager next season if our horrendous run of form continues

FSG aren't idiots - I'm sure they ate aws horrified as we are how sh*t things have been this season

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It's a real shame to have to say, we're not good enough. It's pathetic really. Especially with the wage that the players are on. We are Liverpool Football Club and our team isn't good enough for top 4, it's unbelievable.

For me trying is the most important part and if Kenny knows that we need to bring in Player A, B and C to get us top 4, then surely it should be a no brainer. We could go right to the end of the season and miss out on top 4 on goal difference for instance. Say that we don't bring anybody in and Kenny has the opinion of not wanting to try, because he might have reservations of the player. So we don't bring in anyone and we miss out on top 4 on goal difference....

Then there is a huge feeling of guilt and a bigger finger will be pointed at Dalglish.

I know we need to look at more quality, but is Kenny gonna be stubborn o' Benitez'o? Or take a risk? I mean we can't really do any worse than where we are now, can we? So SURELY it's worth the risk bringing in a player you have reservations over...the player could flourish, hit the ground running and get us top 4....or the player could come in and offer nothing and we stay where we are.

Football is all about risks, that's why Roy Hodgson and Rafa Benitez ultimately failed.

....and unfortunately I'm seeing the same signs with Dalglish now.

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I think King Kenny is one of the best in mind games with reporters. If said one thing I sincerely believe he will mean the opposite. Even a manager in the lowest sunday league will know what is Liverpool's main weakness at the moment. Goalscorer/poacher in the mould of Rush/Fowler. The obvious reason that I can think of why King Kenny said that is due to the fact that he does not want to start a bidding war with any other clubs especially the one with the unlimited funds for players like Man City and Chelsea. But I sincerely hope that he does not do any last minute deals to avoid what happened last January but it's not easy doing a deal in January. Anyway I do not mind if Liverpool sign a striker from a Championship side as they are well known to work hard and plays with more passion. All in all I hope that King Kenny makes the correct decisions and would be better if Andy Carroll starts scoring...Steven Gerrard had tried and successfully helped Peter Crouch to be a good goalscorer and I sincerely hope he can do the same with Carroll...


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If we do not sign anybody this window our chances of fourth will look very slim, still possible but slim chances of making it. To be honest the current bunch is not good enough to fire themselves into the top four.

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Originally Posted By: craney91
Originally Posted By: BarLennon
I think the better question would be "Does anybody know whether we're going to bring anyone in or not". Everything said it this thread is speculation and personal opinion based on very little. To add to that, I don't think we'll sign 2-3 players. I do think we'll sign one player though, or 2 at the most. A striker is an absolute must. I think that if we reach February 1st and we haven't signed a striker, then we won't be achieving a 4th place finish. That's not to say it's not going to happen if we don't sign a striker, or that it will happen if we do sign a striker, but my opinion is that if we don't sign one then we won't have enough firepower to get us into the top 4.


Not at all, considering we don't know anything anyway. That's why hence "think" Do you think that we wont bring anyone in this January?

So in a way it is speculation, but there is nothing wrong with the title.

We all know what we need, it's whether or not the club get the right players.

The question is based on the fact that in the last window, we got our business done quickly and quietly. Kenny said that we can bring players in if we want to.

But what is your gut feeling, do you think we will this January?

I'm lagging, I don't think we will myself, the longer the transfer window goes on.


I wasn't having a go at the thread title, pal.

I think it's hard to compare this window to the summer window. A fairer comparison may be this window to the January window last year. From early enough on in the window we were trying to complete the Suarez deal, and in the end it dragged on right up to deadline day. We also sold Torres and signed Carroll on deadline day, bid for Adam on deadline day, and were heavily linked with moves for Ashley Young and a loan move for Warnock on deadline day.

I'm not terribly surprised that not a lot has happened so far, and would expect any high profile activity to come towards the end of the window. If we are negotiating for players behind the scenes, I think it's a great thing that it's not played out in the media.


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Originally Posted By: craney91

Football is all about risks, that's why Roy Hodgson and Rafa Benitez ultimately failed.


You can add Gerard Houllier to that list

What has paretucularly got to me about Daglish ids that his team selection against Stoke was wretched - choosing an attacking trio of Downing, kuyt and Henderson, who between them have scored one, I repeat one, league goal this season

That's abysmal, almost as abysmal as thinking that by picking such players we'll score goals and win the game

Rafa made many downright bizarre decisions when it came to team selection - and got loads of stick fot it when things didn't pan out as they were meant to as was often the case - but none as bad as that

We need a striker and a defensive midfielder but I don't see FSG stumping up the money if Daglish isn't going to be here beyond the summer - and when your at a club as big as Liverpool and have been getting as poor results as kenny has it's a legitimate question to ponder

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Originally Posted By: Jim Tonez
After their money was spent so horrendously in summer I think FSG would be very reluctant to give this manager (bnot to mention Comoli) more money on the basis it's likely to be wasted

We used to struggle to get certain top-quality even when we were a top 4 team and one of the best iun Europe during Rafa's reign

Now we're a team struggling to get in the top 7, i can't see us getting anyone half devcent and the likes of Defoe and Sinclair are the best we can hope for

Besifdes, top 4 was the brief when kenny got the job so who knows if he'll be manager next season if our horrendous run of form continues

FSG aren't idiots - I'm sure they ate aws horrified as we are how sh*t things have been this season


"Horrendous run of form"? See, this is what I'm talking about. I get that you're not happy with us drawing the last game against Stoke - because neither am I. But you're talking out of your arse. Horrendous run of form... how f*cking much of an exaggeration is that?! Here's our form in the last few games starting with the most recent:

D W W L W D D W W L W D W

No, it's far from title-winning form, and there was too many draws, but that is not what you'd describe as a "horrendous run of form".

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