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believe and keep supporting, and we'll win the league again. Oh. And there was me thinking we needed quality players and management. We'll just keep our fingers crossed instead shall we?
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Reina - makes a lot more mistakes than he used to Enrique - very good Agger - good, but how long until his next lengthy layoff? Carragher - past it Skrtel - ok Johnson - wildly erratic kelly - very good Lucas - good Gerrard - still our best player but hardly represents 'the future' adam - average downing - awful spearing - average shelvey - poor henderson - who? maxi - ok at times as he gets the odd goal but does little else carroll - oh dear suarez - superb player but doesn't score enough as he's surrounded by rubbish (how long will he hang around?) kuyt - offers nothing anymore bellamy - good but again, not one for the future
When you take out the ageing players there is no way you can look at that squad and think it has any chance whatsoever of taking us back to the top. Never in a million years. We have blown a massive chunk of money already - if we hadn't done then I would agree that with the squad we have and £100m+ to bring in new players then we might be optimistic, but that money is gone and we're in 7th! You may disagree with my analysis on the above players - but for me, our squad is good enough for 7th place - which coincidentally is where we are. We don't deserve to be any higher as our manager has bought poorly.
I'd love to see your analysis of the above players and how you think the future looks bright, instead of making childish remarks..... Me making childish remarks... this coming from you.... CarheeX...?! Okaaayyy.... Anyway, I agree with some of your assessments, most of them are just plain unfair/unaccurate, and if you look at them again and assess them on an overall front and not just at the form of their last game, then you'll probably accept that point and change your opinion. Aside from those players there are a number of promising youngsters working their way through the ranks. We don't know how many of them will or won't make it to play for the first team, but some of them have a good chance, and I'd say that makes for a bright future. I don't fear for the club's future at all at the moment. I think things are going almost as well as could be expected. We've dropped far too many points in home games that we should have won. Our finishing has been beyond poor this season, and worse than I can ever remember in all my years of supporting LFC. The fact that 2 of the bottom 4 clubs have scored more goals than us says it all. Despite these facts, we're still in the running for 4th place. We're competing with Arsenal and Chelsea who have been just as wasteful with dropping points, so all is far from lost. If we can win the League Cup, i'm hopeful that it can spur on some confidence and a winning mentality in the team. This remains to be seen though, and isn't a sure thing, just as your callings of doom and glooms aren't.
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A good old kick @rse will do.
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You're making out that I'm the only one who isn't impressed with Kenny's performances! If you can't see how far we are away from being a top team then I'd be wasting both of our time in trying to point it out to you. If you look at my posts after the last game I stated that the performance wasn't good enough or acceptable, that the team line-up was a massive error and that Kenny has to take the blame for those poor decisions. This doesn't mean I want or think he should be sacked. It is actually possible to have opinions without showing the extremeties of an over-dramatic teenage girl. Disagreeing we need to sack the manager doesn't mean that you're blind or living in a dream world. Let's summarise: -you think our performance was unacceptable (presumably I can use the word, 'again' here!?) -the lineup (and tactics) were a massive error -kenny is to blame for the above I'd argue that the lineup was probably as good as it could have been - which in itself is a problem and highlights how bad the players are that kenny has spent so much money on. Why would you want to keep a manager based on the above? It's not as if it's the first time he has taken this approach towards teams we should be beating and it's not as if he can be trusted to be given another big transfer kitty to put things right. With the players at his disposal (the ones that HE bought) we are doing as well as can be expected, which isn't good enough because the expectation is linked his signings. The lineup was as good as it could have been? Sorry, but no. Carroll may not have been great for us this season, but he's done more than Kuyt has. Kuyt hasn't been the same player this season, he's been woeful, and if he isn't moved on this month, then you can bet he will be in the summer. Carroll bagged himself a good goal against Oldham. I would have liked to see him start against Stoke. That's one point - the main point for me is that 5 at the back at home should NEVER have happened. I honestly don't know what the thinking was behind that. I don't accept anybody saying "oh, but Johnson and Enrique were playing as wingbacks". They're pretty much been playing as wingbacks all season, constantly getting forward throughout games. The difference this time is that they were leaving 3 centrebacks behind them in defence instead of the usual 2. We've had enough problems getting players in the opposing box as it is this season without taking another player away. But anyway, your philosophy is that because he's made this decision he should be sacked, yes? That's pretty inspiring stuff.
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Whats the solution Jim?,is it to sack a manager after a few poor results,we will go through 4 a season at that rate,nevermind 4 in 16 months. It's not a few poor resukts thojhugh is it - more a string of them - and infront of our own fans too - who pay good money to watch this team try to perform and fail We've been unable to beat Sunderland, Wigan, Blackburn, Stoke and Norwich, Swansea at home Despite fine form of Norwich and Swansea at the moment hese are sides that are likely all be in the bottom half of the league and if we drop ots to them we won't be getting back in the CL - we won't even come close I'm sick of this Kenny, Kenny, Kenny when we all know had we got these results under Roy Hogson we'd all be saying he should be shown the doorKenny's spent quite a lot of money on a squad that's completely incapable of performing in front of its own fans unless its a big side How much of this is down to Comoli I don't know but he has a track record of spending lots of money of overrayed players - and that's exactly what he's done here Absolutely incorrect.
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There's an article today by Martin Samuel questioning whether Carroll is even worth ten million. His two goal tally this season would put him in the company of Leroy Lita, Kevin Davies, Jay Boothroyd, Victor Anichebe none of whom are worth £10m. So why would anyone pay £10m for Carroll because we paid £35m for him I think not. In a year we have for no contribution wasted about £28m. Add to this Henserson and Downing where we have probably paid three times too much you have to ask the question whose judgement is this? If I was FSG I would want to ask very serious questions before sanctioning another spree like this. Absolutely spot on. Although some will disagree with you because Kenny was such a great player a long, long time ago and should be free from criticism! The funny thing is that people are justifying his price tage because he's young! Lunacy. The only thing that matters is the talent, unless we've bought Andy Carroll as an investement to sell on at a profit, in which case....... Are you serious? WHO is challenging the price tag or trying to justify it? Point me out one person or one post that's doing so. Please.
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Fair analysis of the Stoke match,Gary Neville was talking about it just a few minutes ago,highlighted how the LFC players were not getting in the box often enough when attacking the Stoke goal,players and coaching staff must try harder.
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Fair analysis of the Stoke match,Gary Neville was talking about it just a few minutes ago,highlighted how the LFC players were not getting in the box often enough when attacking the Stoke goal,players and coaching staff must try harder. Thats been the problem all season the opposition penalty area seems a no go area for our guys.
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de rossi can be signed for 5m, last 6 months of his contract left.
even if saurez got cavani to come to us, LFC have not got the 30m plus to sign him.
most of the players u have named are quality, wud improve the starting 11, thats a start Ah yes, I forgot about De Rossi's contract almost being up. Still, we won't sign him. His wages will be massive (he's already on something like £120,000 per week and would surely want an improvement to come to LFC) and there are other places that need strengthening before the central midfield should be addressed. As for Cavani, you're probably right - we don't have that kind of cash. Like I said, it was more wishful thinking on my part than anything else.
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Fair analysis of the Stoke match,Gary Neville was talking about it just a few minutes ago,highlighted how the LFC players were not getting in the box often enough when attacking the Stoke goal,players and coaching staff must try harder. A fairly obvious point, but yeah, pretty much spot on from Neville. The one match where it would make sense to play Carroll, he started the game on the bench. Shawcross and Huth will eat up aimless crosses into the box all day. That's exactly what Pulis wanted. We don't really have anyone apart from Suarez and Gerrard who can make things happen in the opposition's area. As soon as we get within 20 yards of goal, we panic. Downing stops, holds the ball up for 5 seconds, then passes back to Johnson, hoping that he'll do something creative. Adam just whips in a pointless cross that ends up hitting the fullback's kneecap. If nothing else, at least Carroll would have been a body to aim for in the box.
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