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I hear a lot of people saying that 'all we need to do is believe and keep supporting, and we'll win the league again'. Sorry, but that ain't enough. No matter how much 'supporting and believing' we do, Henderson, Downing and Carroll will always be poor, spearing and adam will always be the epitome of average, Skrtel will always be erratic and Kenny 's tactics will always reamin in the past.
In this day and age (even with the easily circumvented new fair play rules) it's more and more likely that the team who spends the most will win the most. So far, FSG have given Kenny well over £100m to spend and that was on the back of them saying they'd be careful with their money. To me, that suggests there isn't a lot of money left and that what Kenny spent should have been invested much more wisely as the kitty is now dry. Because that £100m was so badly spent we need to spend that amount again and more, in order to start moving up the table. In fact we need to spend a hell of a lot more than that as our best player is now knocking on a bit, and our best central defender is looking even worse - there isn't anyone in the world at the moment who could fill Gerrards boots so we should be looking at 2 players of the highest quality to replace him.
The other problem is that we used to compete with the big spenders because we had a great youth system that gave us the likes of fowler, gerrard, carragher & owen which saved us an absolute fortune on transfer fees. Nowadays, we have nothing in the youths and/or the stakes are too high for them to be given an opportunity. The safe money is on the fact that our youths are really poor, certainly not as good as some people here think. Put it this way, if shelvey and spearing are the only ones good enough to get in the first team then I dread to think how poor the rest of them are!

To sum it up, our only hope of challenging for the title is to receive massive financial investment and to get a manager who will spend it correctly. The longer we leave it, the less chance there is of us catching up. As fans, we need to accept that our rightful place in the league based on squad quality, money spent, managerial ability etc is probably where we are now - the table doesn't lie. Depressing but realistic.

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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
I hear a lot of people saying that 'all we need to do is believe and keep supporting, and we'll win the league again'. Sorry, but that ain't enough. No matter how much 'supporting and believing' we do, Henderson, Downing and Carroll will always be poor, spearing and adam will always be the epitome of average, Skrtel will always be erratic and Kenny 's tactics will always reamin in the past.
In this day and age (even with the easily circumvented new fair play rules) it's more and more likely that the team who spends the most will win the most. So far, FSG have given Kenny well over £100m to spend and that was on the back of them saying they'd be careful with their money. To me, that suggests there isn't a lot of money left and that what Kenny spent should have been invested much more wisely as the kitty is now dry. Because that £100m was so badly spent we need to spend that amount again and more, in order to start moving up the table. In fact we need to spend a hell of a lot more than that as our best player is now knocking on a bit, and our best central defender is looking even worse - there isn't anyone in the world at the moment who could fill Gerrards boots so we should be looking at 2 players of the highest quality to replace him.
The other problem is that we used to compete with the big spenders because we had a great youth system that gave us the likes of fowler, gerrard, carragher & owen which saved us an absolute fortune on transfer fees. Nowadays, we have nothing in the youths and/or the stakes are too high for them to be given an opportunity. The safe money is on the fact that our youths are really poor, certainly not as good as some people here think. Put it this way, if shelvey and spearing are the only ones good enough to get in the first team then I dread to think how poor the rest of them are!

To sum it up, our only hope of challenging for the title is to receive massive financial investment and to get a manager who will spend it correctly. The longer we leave it, the less chance there is of us catching up. As fans, we need to accept that our rightful place in the league based on squad quality, money spent, managerial ability etc is probably where we are now - the table doesn't lie. Depressing but realistic.


Ehh.... what?


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We have had the investment - it just hasn't been wisely spent

Carroll, Downing and Henderson have come nowhere near to justifying their transfer fees - which makes one wonder what either Comoli or Kenny saw about them to make them depart which such significant sums of money

It's bo good for Kenny, Bar Lennon or anyone else to keep coming out whenever we drop pts at home - which is almost every game nowadays - and commend the performamce and say all we need is that 'wee bit of luck'

It's not good enough

Is doesn't take Einstein to work out that an attackinbg trio of Downing, Kuyt and Henderson isn't going to deliver many goals - despite their price tags

We look no better in the league than we did under Rafa's first full season, or for that matter Houllier's last - when we finished 38pts off league leaders

Dropping pts to the smaller sides was identofied as a key failing last season - I hate saying it biut Daglish's inability to sort it out does reivite the question whether he is the right man to take the club forward and on current evidence one would have to say no

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Originally Posted By: Jim Tonez
We have had the investment - it just hasn't been wisely spent

Carroll, Downing and Henderson have come nowhere near to justifying their transfer fees - which makes one wonder what either Comoli or Kenny saw about them to make them depart which such significant sums of money

It's bo good for Kenny, Bar Lennon or anyone else to keep coming out whenever we drop pts at home - which is almost every game nowadays - and commend the performamce and say all we need is that 'wee bit of luck'

It's not good enough

Is doesn't take Einstein to work out that an attackinbg trio of Downing, Kuyt and Henderson isn't going to deliver many goals - despite their price tags

We look no better in the league than we did under Rafa's first full season, or for that matter Houllier's last - when we finished 38pts off league leaders

Dropping pts to the smaller sides was identofied as a key failing last season - I hate saying it biut Daglish's inability to sort it out does reivite the question whether he is the right man to take the club forward and on current evidence one would have to say no


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Whats the solution Jim?,is it to sack a manager after a few poor results,we will go through 4 a season at that rate,nevermind 4 in 16 months.


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Carheex you seem to be a man who knows all the problems. for once once offer some solutions. I am intrigued to hear what we can now do that will satisfy the nostradamus type posters such as yourselves.

lay it on and lets see what you feel 'we' the blind faithers are not seeing.

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I wouldn't sack any manager after a few poor results, but with the amount of money that kenny has spent most people would expect us to be doing a hell of a lot better than we are. No one here can seriously look at our squad and think that the future is bright. It's the weakest I have seen it for a long time.
I would ask Kenny to stand down - then look for a manager with a very good recent track record.

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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
I wouldn't sack any manager after a few poor results, but with the amount of money that kenny has spent most people would expect us to be doing a hell of a lot better than we are. No one here can seriously look at our squad and think that the future is bright. It's the weakest I have seen it for a long time.
I would ask Kenny to stand down - then look for a manager with a very good recent track record.


Once again.... baffled.

Haven't seen you posting on here for a while - funny how posters such as yourself only resurface at times like this, isn't it? Why is that, I wonder..


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You're making out that I'm the only one who isn't impressed with Kenny's performances! If you can't see how far we are away from being a top team then I'd be wasting both of our time in trying to point it out to you.

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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
I wouldn't sack any manager after a few poor results, but with the amount of money that kenny has spent most people would expect us to be doing a hell of a lot better than we are. No one here can seriously look at our squad and think that the future is bright. It's the weakest I have seen it for a long time.
I would ask Kenny to stand down - then look for a manager with a very good recent track record.






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