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Konchesky, Jovanovic, Babel, Poulsen. These were players in or on the verge of the starting 11. Then there was Degen, El Zhar, Kyrgiakos, Joe Cole (who was never anything more than dire for us), David N'Gog (was the only back-up striker to Torres that we had). The only notable departures have been Meireles and Torres.

How you can say that was a decent squad and criticise the current one is beyond me. It's one thing having one school of thought and disagreeing with people on one or two areas, but that's no reason to get all extreme and talking utter nonsense.

big soto Kyrgiakos was great loved him .

Wasn't a bad lad,did Fellaini nicely to.

Look at you, tailoring the signings to suit your own agenda. It'd be hilarious if it wasn't so tragic. I don't even know where to begin. Who signs the players - Kenny or Comolli? The answer depends on two things - 1. Whether they're a good signing or not, and 2. Who your villain of the week is - Kenny or Comolli. Seriously, you're entitled to your opinions, and I agree with you on many of them, but you're being so far over the top about stuff it's really not even funny. You paint everything the way you see fit. You're the exact polar opposite to what you call a blindfaither, and yet you want to be taken seriously? Sorry pal, I agree with you on a few points, but you need to stop distorting reality to suit your own vendettas.

sure did

Babel on his day was a good player too. Yes I know he had bad days but he did contribute sometimes. I wish we had him today at least he did have talent albeit he preferred twitter to using it. We also had a fully fit Carragher and Gerrard whereas now they are at the autumn of their careers. Kenny has improved the squad yes he has considerably, world beaters now that is if you are incapable of thinking anything other than king kenny can do not wrong. There are things wrong with the club and the team has not made a step change in quality but for £100m it should definately have done. We should be allowed to say the obvious. As pictonclock as said on another thread it may be that Henry has used club assets to fund that £100m and may be reluctant to provide his own money. If so then we really do have a problem and someone should be accountable for that glossing over it with some kind os silly hero worship is not helping the club.

A typical Hodgson team whilst he was here:

Reina

Johnson
Carragher
Skrtel
Konchesky(!)

Meireles
Gerrard

Rodriguez
Cole
Kuyt

Torres


Even with the inclusion of Konchesky, I'd prefer that lineup to anything that includes carroll, adam and henderson. Kenny hasn't actually made that many changes, so the squad he inherited couldn't have been that bad. Kenny has only got rid of torres, meireles and konchesky. Have their replacements been better?

Enrique for Konchesky - this doesn't even need an answer!
Adam/Henderson for Meireles - I was never the biggest Raul fan but I'd prefer him to either of those 2.
Carroll for Torres - even the bitterest amongst us wouldn't choose carroll. Agreed, they've had a rough year and scored a pitiful amount of goals but we know Torres has done it over and over again and at LFC would definitely have come good again. Plus his assist rate at chelsea has been excellent. I'm not even going to discuss carroll's 'contribution'! (interesting fact: in 2011 Torres scored more goals for LFC than he did for chelsea!!!)


So, to argue that the squad Kenny inherited wasn't any good is a bizarre comment which you seem to have made blindly and without any thought as you have a different agenda to me. Which is fine.

[quote=redjack]i have to diagree with the last comments. I think we have bought very badly. I will admit i have never rated downing as i think he is a very average premiership player and aston villa was about his level. Funny how no-one else went for him when he left middlesbrough. The players that have come in are not as good as the ones who left. The big hoof tactic to carroll which was used against man city is just simply horrendous to watch.

Not only that but it shows a lack of confidence in the midfield players by kenny. If uncle roy had done that he would get absolutely slated but beacuse its kenny we are happy.

Anyway the rumour going round the city at the weekend was that the owners have sounded out Graeme souness about returning as manager next season as he is close friends with John Henry. Anyone else heard this? [/quote]

got ya! Your a Blue

Redjack, red4life and whatever. This is what has been put round the city by Blues fans, my mates are big blues and they even told me that at Everton games they have been joking as to how much it winds up the reds.

You need to get a life

What agenda could I possibly have? Let me rephrase that actually - what agenda do you think I have?!

I hear ya on the difference between the first choice 11. In addition to that, I'd take Bellamy over Cole any day - you left that one out. I agree to a degree on the Torres/Carroll comparison. We all know Carroll hasn't been a success (yet anyway) - Torres hasn't been a success at Chelsea either, and I'm sorry, but you can't say "at LFC would definitely have come good again" because you just simply do not know that. The main point in that situation though, was that Torres wanted out. The situation wasn't workable, so the sale and replacement of him was forced.

Even more important though, aside from our starting 11, we have a lot more strength in depth than we did under Hodgson. Outside our starting 11 back then, we literally had nothing! We now have good competition in every position, and yeah, our squad may still not be up to the standard we want it to be, but it's improving (from the squad we had 12 months ago), and it's not going to happen overnight.