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I honestly think we should be taking a step back with this stadium thing. It looks like football in this countryt could be changing and we dont want to be saddled with a load of debt and a white elephant of a stadium which nobody goes to.

The only way it might work is if the price of admission dropped significantly which in all honesty never will, it will only go up, even United the biggest and best Club in the Country no longer sell out and they win leagues and play in Champions leagues finals nearly every year so what does that tell you.
Unfortunately Liverpool Football Club are no longer the Club or power we once where, there is alot more likliehood that we will be finishing 5th and 6th in the League than 3rd or 4th for the foreseeable future and for that reason I ask you this, are fans like we have going to come out in force and pay 60 or 70 pound a ticket to watch a middle to top team each week, i dont think so, not when you can watch games for free in the pub or maybe on sky.

We should wait and see what happens regarding our league positions and if attendences in the league continue to drop before commiting ourselves to possibly a white elephant of a stadium.

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Originally Posted By: want3d
yea and we haven't played badly in probably 5/6 out of those 7 draws imo in fact we've been the better side in most. we have hit the post countless times, haven't had too much luck with penalties either and the majority of our players just need to find their scoring boots.

but how can that be blamed on the owners? they've done their bit imo and backed the manager with funds. they have a long term strategy not an over night one.

at the end of the day we're slowly improving imo and this time last year we had a lot worse issues than we do now. the manager has sold the majority of dead wood and brought in arguably the best players available to us without European football.

people can slate him for his tactics against stoke at home, but when you actually think about it we don't have a defensive midfield player available. how poor did we look when spearing came off against city? we need someone who can sit back in midfield and allow others the freedom to move forward and with lucas and spearing out we don't have any options





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Originally Posted By: northliverpool
I honestly think we should be taking a step back with this stadium thing. It looks like football in this countryt could be changing and we dont want to be saddled with a load of debt and a white elephant of a stadium which nobody goes to.

The only way it might work is if the price of admission dropped significantly which in all honesty never will, it will only go up, even United the biggest and best Club in the Country no longer sell out and they win leagues and play in Champions leagues finals nearly every year so what does that tell you.
Unfortunately Liverpool Football Club are no longer the Club or power we once where, there is alot more likliehood that we will be finishing 5th and 6th in the League than 3rd or 4th for the foreseeable future and for that reason I ask you this, are fans like we have going to come out in force and pay 60 or 70 pound a ticket to watch a middle to top team each week, i dont think so, not when you can watch games for free in the pub or maybe on sky.

We should wait and see what happens regarding our league positions and if attendences in the league continue to drop before commiting ourselves to possibly a white elephant of a stadium.


I do take your point and its not just price thats the issue. When I have a spare ticket I cannot give it away for free. People arn't interested anymore. But if you are right (and you may be) then football is finished as a major sport. That could actually happen many people now go to alternatives such as rugby league or lower division clubs.


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Originally Posted By: northliverpool
I honestly think we should be taking a step back with this stadium thing. It looks like football in this countryt could be changing and we dont want to be saddled with a load of debt and a white elephant of a stadium which nobody goes to.

The only way it might work is if the price of admission dropped significantly which in all honesty never will, it will only go up, even United the biggest and best Club in the Country no longer sell out and they win leagues and play in Champions leagues finals nearly every year so what does that tell you.
Unfortunately Liverpool Football Club are no longer the Club or power we once where, there is alot more likliehood that we will be finishing 5th and 6th in the League than 3rd or 4th for the foreseeable future and for that reason I ask you this, are fans like we have going to come out in force and pay 60 or 70 pound a ticket to watch a middle to top team each week, i dont think so, not when you can watch games for free in the pub or maybe on sky.

We should wait and see what happens regarding our league positions and if attendences in the league continue to drop before commiting ourselves to possibly a white elephant of a stadium.


I do take your point and its not just price thats the issue. When I have a spare ticket I cannot give it away for free. People arn't interested anymore. But if you are right (and you may be) then football is finished as a major sport. That could actually happen many people now go to alternatives such as rugby league or lower division clubs.




stan its not that people are not interested it just because people have been forced out due to a number of reasons , they are doing something else IE watching the racing and then the match in the pub , plus other things because the match for some people is not No1 priotity no more .

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guys we are in the biggest global reccession in the last 100 years, obviously people are gonna have less money, which means less people going to games. football is not dying as one of you said its the economy. we cant blame lfc for the global economy now can we?? actualy dont answer that northliverpool cause im sure you prob think the economy is kennys fault too

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I don't think its the recession in fact at the moment if you are in work you have never had it so good mortgage rates. Even if the economy was booming £50 a game and rising would be too much. But I also think there is something else going on. People don't want to go the game anymore not just Liverpool all the teams. Some do but most are not interested I don't know why.


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Originally Posted By: irish kopite
guys we are in the biggest global reccession in the last 100 years, obviously people are gonna have less money, which means less people going to games. football is not dying as one of you said its the economy. we cant blame lfc for the global economy now can we?? actualy dont answer that northliverpool cause im sure you prob think the economy is kennys fault too
look mate the decline started well before the reccession , people just cant go every game due a number of reasons and i can only comment on the local support as i dont know how many can or cant make it due to there own personal reason from other places , people just do something else now thats why stanley and others i know cant give tickets away , they will go the pub have a bet few cheap pints watch the racing the the match instead of trying to get tickets they cant get due different but associated reasons , not that they dont love liverpool football club no more or that they cant be bothered it just not No1 priority no more and there are loads like myself close to the edge of not being able to go the match , this season is ok but next i dont know .

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bit off topic lads but yous have been to a lot of grounds in england im sure. but which one do you think is the best at the moment? or which one would you like to see our new stadium to be like??

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Originally Posted By: irish kopite
bit off topic lads but yous have been to a lot of grounds in england im sure. but which one do you think is the best at the moment? or which one would you like to see our new stadium to be like??
arsenal and old trafford are by far the best

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Originally Posted By: irish kopite
bit off topic lads but yous have been to a lot of grounds in england im sure. but which one do you think is the best at the moment? or which one would you like to see our new stadium to be like??


I have been to nearly all the grounds except Aresnal I have been to Highbury but not Emirates. I like Eastlands its not as big as old trafford but there is nowhere you don't get a great view ans its impressive and there is a big concourse outside and fast (10 mins) links to the city centre. Its a nice experience. Old Trafford looks fantastic but the views are crap at many of the stands thats because its been build piecemeal on top of an old stadium. Which is why we must never tart up Anfield I would rather leave it as it is.


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