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Dont get me wrong I have a lot of affection for Anfield I have spent almost my entire life going and accept the history and the european nights etc. But if that was used as a thing to hold the club back for the next phase it would be a tragedy.

Burtonwood here we come.......


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Win the World Cup bid? While Blatter is in charge?

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Originally Posted By: thundyr
Win the World Cup bid? While Blatter is in charge?


2145 year we will get it no problem !


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No we have no moved on but thats because I feel Henry's heart is not in it he may surprise me but my instinct tells me he is a short term speculator. The incremental seats revenue vs capital cost is disengenious by Henry. Any accountant will tell you that is not how things work. The reason for investing in a football club or any business is CAPITAL profit. To the layman you buy for x and sell for y once you have built the business up. With the right commercial management and infrastuture and in a strong economy say 10 years time Liverpool would be worth £3b no problem at all.


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We would not be laying out £300m much of the cost (especially Burtonwood) could be grants or interest free loans such as the coalition’s new infrastructure levy which is being allocated to the North West. Plus we have commercial sponsorship plus naming rights. Plus there are other options such as preference share or even share placing. Henry is a financier after all. Also the incremental revenue is far more that the extra seats corporate boxes all round the ground and many other options such as the stadium being used for concerts etc. But all this involves taking a business risk.


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Originally Posted By: Rafarendum
Lets hope so Stanley, and I think we should go ahead with a new stadium, but it has to be at least 70k in sizem, otherwise I don't think it's sensible. But I am worried we'll be paying a lot more than 300m. In fact haven't we already paid millions just for all of these studies and architect designs etc? Plus I've never known a stadium in england to come in on budget.


i think you are all mad to move to far away from the City. We are one of the most famous clubs in the world and you think moving to Burtonwood would provide a platform to improve? madness. The whole spect fro many fans is the social aspect fo going to the match. Meeting friends in pubs in the city etc. This is what makes the clu special.

Recent history of clubs that moved shows what soulless places they are, the Reebok in Horwich, Boro and remember Galatasaray abandoned the Attaturk stadium becuase it was in the middle of nowwhere. All thought the 'cheap' green field site would benefit the club, all have struggles since. You need the city for identity and for the sicial elements. People visiting Liverpool are not going to leave the Liverpool One to nip to Burtonwood, are they?

A new stadium required, about 60-65k is realistic, the corporate element is where we are weak so this would be the main benefit as equal if not more important than the extra 15k seats. BUT we must retain our indentity, leaving the city not an option.

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Originally Posted By: Rafarendum
Lets hope so Stanley, and I think we should go ahead with a new stadium, but it has to be at least 70k in sizem, otherwise I don't think it's sensible. But I am worried we'll be paying a lot more than 300m. In fact haven't we already paid millions just for all of these studies and architect designs etc? Plus I've never known a stadium in england to come in on budget.


i think you are all mad to move to far away from the City. We are one of the most famous clubs in the world and you think moving to Burtonwood would provide a platform to improve? madness. The whole spect fro many fans is the social aspect fo going to the match. Meeting friends in pubs in the city etc. This is what makes the clu special.

Recent history of clubs that moved shows what soulless places they are, the Reebok in Horwich, Boro and remember Galatasaray abandoned the Attaturk stadium becuase it was in the middle of nowwhere. All thought the 'cheap' green field site would benefit the club, all have struggles since. You need the city for identity and for the sicial elements. People visiting Liverpool are not going to leave the Liverpool One to nip to Burtonwood, are they?

A new stadium required, about 60-65k is realistic, the corporate element is where we are weak so this would be the main benefit as equal if not more important than the extra 15k seats. BUT we must retain our indentity, leaving the city not an option.
The thing is that the Club has now lost it's identity with the City anyway because nobody from the City hardly goes and there is no younger generation of Local kids coming through and that was a major talking point in the local/OOT debates on here. The most important part of any stadium is the people who go in it so if it's a souless as you call it it will be down to the match going fans for not creating an atmosphere. The other thing you mention is people meeting up, well if you encourage people to arrive early in a fan park then people would make it more of a day thing or occasion instead of just turning up 5 mins before kick off and then leaving 5 mins after which is what most do now. The whole point of this little debate is that we have the chance to do something completely different from the norm,a whole new matchday experience as I would like to call it.

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Yes exactly and if you look at the situation in America they have been doing that for years going to the match is a family day out. When I go to Anfield now I arrive at 14.50 and leave once the final whisle blows. Lets look at the future not the past a new stadium is for 100 years hence.

Now where did I leave that hoverboard?


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Yes exactly and if you look at the situation in America they have been doing that for years going to the match is a family day out. When I go to Anfield now I arrive at 14.50 and leave once the final whisle blows. Lets look at the future not the past a new stadium is for 100 years hence.

Now where did I leave that hoverboard?
apart from the hoverboard bit , i think liverpool could be at the fore front of the matchday experience get there early proper bars proper food courts , acts and groups on before and after but not at anfield or stanley park .

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