KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum This Suarez business is getting out of hand !!!

I'm overseas and let me tell you that it's certainly NOT Liverpool vs the rest of the world. Loads of people I have talked to think that the FA is corrupt, biased, paid off, inconsistent, hypocritical, and somewhat prejudiced against foreign players and cultures. The FA defended apartheid! The FA defends thugs like Rooney. The FA have decided to make Suarez (not a British player) their scape-goat in order to try and look good. A lot of people see through it.

Also, Evra met with Ferguson when he was "considering" pressing charges. A lot of people thing Suarez (and Liverpool) has been stitched up and that this is all political. Yes, there are lots of news feeds about "Suarez the racist" - but there are some about defamation of character and a ruling body being judge, jury and executioner based on hearsay. There is also the issue of Evra's slur against Suarez, which the FA have not addressed. A lot of people think KK has every right to defend his player in a witch-hunt - and that the media (and former players) insisting Johnson rip his T-shirt up is a form of descrimination and racism in itself.

There is no righteous party here. If Suarez got a two match ban for failing to understand UK culture - and for inciting a fellow player - so be it. But now we have the smug self-righteous "Sir" Alex pontificating his sham righteousness in public. Now we have legions of fans singing "Racist [oops]" to a player that the FA and Evra said wasn't racist. Now we have Man Utd (and possibly other players) empowered to take anything said on the pitch, witnessed or not, to get a rival professional banned.

Being PC is not the same as being anti-racist. Often the attempt to be over-correctional becomes racist in itself. The FA should have not come out with a judgement before the written report came out. They should have banned both players for insulting each other - perhaps Suarez slightly more for inciting it. But before we morally pontificate and use these players as examples - understand that players wind each other up for the entire 90 minutes using all manner of vile taunts. The British players are probably the worst!

Uruguay's top football hero, responsible for their world cup win in Argentina in the 50s, is referred to as Negrito. It is an honourable nickname and he is a national icon. This doesn't make it right - but it doesn't make Suarez a racist deserving of libelous chants from the terraces - or Fergie's smug moralism!

Liverpool are 100% right to stand behind their man.

The strong consensus building on this thread is one thing, attracting players to the club is another. The Jan window opens soon. Would you sign for a club that is in an increasingly acrimonious struggle over a ‘race issue’ with the authorities, pilloried in the media and struggling for CL?
The truth and the public perception of the truth are two different things. Managing the situation to bring the two to coincide is difficult and at the moment LFC is losing a PR war. We’d better hope that evidence soon to be released puts the incident in a new and more favourable light.

Personally if I were offered to sign for liverpool I wouldn't really care about what the media have to say about them, because as any pro footballer should know, Liverpool and Anfield are places with so much history and passion and pride, that no amount of media hype can change that. And if a player doesn't know that, i doubt LFC would want him. So let's be realistic. Would you turn down an offer of millions of pounds and a place in LFC history because of what Evra and the media might be saying?

Personally if I were offered to sign for liverpool I wouldn't really care about what the media have to say about them, because as any pro footballer should know, Liverpool and Anfield are places with so much history and passion and pride, that no amount of media hype can change that. And if a player doesn't know that, i doubt LFC would want him. So let's be realistic. Would you turn down an offer of millions of pounds and a place in LFC history because of what Evra and the media might be saying?

Here we go again people talking about the past, when are people on here going to understand we are no longer the Club we used to be, footballers nowadays are not going to sign for a Club that was big and famous over 20 years ago. The footballers of now want to sign for your United's, Chelsea's and City, they are the big Clubs which will provide them with fame and fortune, I dont like the idea of it but thats the way it is now. I honestly think all this living in the past is seriously damaging our future as it's not allowing us to move forward, lets remove all this sentiment once and for all and treat the Club as it it now, a business or franchise.

Fordfocus, do you know what the hell you are talking about? The point of my post was to reply to your statement that our support of Luis Suarez will make it more difficult to attract players in january. I am not arguing that we are more attractive than Chelsea or Real Madrid etc, just that our support of Suarez won't influence potential signings in a negative manner. If anything, the loyalty the club is showing towards it's player can only help bring players in.

So seriously, your post about living in the past and saying Chelsea is more attractive to the players of today is a bit moronic in response to my statement!