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i reckon we ll see where we are at the end of the season and take it from there. all these if and buts and maybes are just stupid. no one on here can see into the future, if steps need to be taken at the end of the season they will be im sure. until then lets just get behind the team and see what happens, because kenny aint going anywhere this season no matter how much talk yas do.

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Originally Posted By: fordfocus
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everton over achieved. we're under achieving.


We are under achieving and I think our poor return on investment on the £100m put into the team is a big part of it. The team are playing better under Kenny I will give him that but 2 /3 top class players and we would have been in the top 4 I am sure. Kenny made some big mistakes in the transfer market and it could cost him his job if we have a poor second half. Put it this way if you was JH would you trust him with another £100m if it goes badly?
Can I ask you something then Stanley Park, if you think we are under achieving how long do you give it before we accept it's now what we are or have become. I ask this because it is one Champions League in nearly 30 years and no leagues in 22 years and counting, we are without Champions league footie coming up to 3 years, how long do you give it before we accept we are only a big Club historically or in name only as what happend to Leeds United and Everton before us. I would like to know how fans get the idea we have this some sort of devine right to play in the Champions league because of past reputation even though we have never looked capable for the last two seasons and counting.


Good question I would say we need champions league either this season or at most next or we have missed the boat to get their organically. The other thing is major investment injection but Henry looks to be short in a that department and the fair play rules wont help albeit we are a big club fanbase wise. So to answer your question the next two years.


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Which is WHY I have been banging on about fourth and why I am so frustrated with the money wasted on Carroll. Its our future being risked here. But as Irish says we have to stick with it now but we can still have our say.


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i agree stanley ive been banging on about 4th meself think its massive we get there this season, and i still believe were in with an outside chance. just need to keep the faith for now at least

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What on earth is a 'full half season'?

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Originally Posted By: irish kopite
for me the only signing he got wrong was carroll. but thats just my opinion


I'm yet to be convinced he got even that one "wrong", though I can agree that buying a player of his type for the current Liverpool squad was at the very least a risk even before one adds in the transfer fee. But I do think we shouldn't make the mistake of thinking Carroll was always destined to be a bad buy - Suarez could have struggled last season, and maybe Carroll would then have been allowed to play a game more suited to him. Instead Suarez was astonishingly good, and since then Carroll has had to play catch-up in a fast-paced game of pass and move, where he has shown himself to be slow-witted and unable to either pass or move.

I believe he has the potential, but I do not believe we are taking a path that will not enable him to realize that potential quickly, and I suspect his personal doubts are beginning to get in the way of his training and ultimately his game. The British media as usual are doing a fine job of murdering their darlings...

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Originally Posted By: TheKopProphet
Serious questions for the doubters and doomsayers...

Did you really expect us to go from Hodgson's mid-tablers to title challengers so quickly? Did you really expect our team to have it all together by Christmas with so many new players? Do you really think Kenny hasn't done well in his first full half season in charge? Are you really willing to give up on our players after a dozen games or so?
Why cant we go from where we finished last season to a top four place this season, we have had enough funds to bring in the right players, if those players are not enough then the buck stops with the manager. Arsene Wenger won the League in his first full season after Bruce Rioch and did'nt Carlo Ancelotti win the League and Cup double in his first full season despite finishing behind us the season before when Chelsea were under Scolari and Guus Hiddink, so the answer is yes it can be done with the right manager in charge, it's not as if we are asking for the League Title just a top four place.

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Originally Posted By: fordfocus
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Serious questions for the doubters and doomsayers...

Did you really expect us to go from Hodgson's mid-tablers to title challengers so quickly? Did you really expect our team to have it all together by Christmas with so many new players? Do you really think Kenny hasn't done well in his first full half season in charge? Are you really willing to give up on our players after a dozen games or so?
Why cant we go from where we finished last season to a top four place this season, we have had enough funds to bring in the right players, if those players are not enough then the buck stops with the manager. Arsene Wenger won the League in his first full season after Bruce Rioch and did'nt Carlo Ancelotti win the League and Cup double in his first full season despite finishing behind us the season before when Chelsea were under Scolari and Guus Hiddink, so the answer is yes it can be done with the right manager in charge, it's not as if we are asking for the League Title just a top four place.




did the season finish already???

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Were going well, defence sorted midfield as good as any except city/spurs upfront creating. Were a Robbie fowler away from a serious push.

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Originally Posted By: fordfocus
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Serious questions for the doubters and doomsayers...

Did you really expect us to go from Hodgson's mid-tablers to title challengers so quickly? Did you really expect our team to have it all together by Christmas with so many new players? Do you really think Kenny hasn't done well in his first full half season in charge? Are you really willing to give up on our players after a dozen games or so?
Why cant we go from where we finished last season to a top four place this season, we have had enough funds to bring in the right players, if those players are not enough then the buck stops with the manager. Arsene Wenger won the League in his first full season after Bruce Rioch and did'nt Carlo Ancelotti win the League and Cup double in his first full season despite finishing behind us the season before when Chelsea were under Scolari and Guus Hiddink, so the answer is yes it can be done with the right manager in charge, it's not as if we are asking for the League Title just a top four place.




did kenny dalglish go off with your missus or something??

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