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Well Thundyr, some of your points are valid and well made as usual, however it's easy for us hurlers on the ditch to take pot shots at Kenny, and I'm guilty myself in perhaps a less direct way, but I would argue in my more lucid moments that Kenny has done a great job considering the state we were in when he took over, compared to how the squad and the club in general is now. We are playing better football now than anything I can remember since the early 90s. We are creating multiple chances in virtually every game and that in my book is the measure of how a team and manager are performing. It can hardly be fairly laid at Kenny's door that our two strikers are off form and missing sitters. All he could do was to leave one or other out, even in important matches and he has shown the courage to do just that. Whilst I've voiced some oblique complaints myself I am nonetheless a Kenny fan and I am happy with what he has done this far and I believe he will, successfully rebuild the squad. However rebuilding a squad takes time and also experimentation and cannot be achieved overnight, so I say let's all get behind the project and support it. I think we can all have faith in Kenny as much as we want, the question is has John Henry, we all know the Minimum return he set out for us at the start of the season given his enormous outlay so time will tell wether Kenny will have done enough come May. ...Aaaand we have confirmation. Welcome back. welcome back jimmycase, merry christmas from kenny and all the team at melwood, as our no1 fan we love you. keep up the support in the new year
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Its a sh1t car,with dodgy engines and sh1t output. Audi all the way.
"Romance has broke down
This boy is crack'in up"
So not a moderator
Valar Morghulis
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Is that supposed to be a cheap shot? Nothing cheap about it. Think it's idiotic to tell a man that knows more about winning football matches than any of us ever will to look in the mirror. You took the cheap shot at Kenny. The man is total and utter class win, lose or draw. I think you're being rather foolish. Kenny may well visit sick kids...he may well have been a great player once...he may well have even been a great manager once.....but that doesn't make him exempt from criticsm regarding his current managerial/transfer skills/
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if kenny stepped down today, he would have alreay done enough in my book. there's a terific platform at the club now for either him or another manager to take us that step forward. and remember, the step forward is only 2 or 3 extra wins a season. thats how close we are to CL football, and maybe 4 or 5 wins extra off a title. Do you think if we dont make it into the Champions League this season we never will, what I mean is the Clubs already in will of moved even further ahead as it will be three seasons without being in it, which is virtualy impossible. I look at Everton who qualified back in 2005 yet within two seasons of not qualifying after it they were in a position of never returning, we could be similar.I know we spend more money than Everton but now the clubs already in it are much bigger and powerful than back then not to mention the competition far more competative.
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It’s a club tradition Liverpool go to Alder Hey they have done it for years under every manager Hodgson all of them. And that’s to our great credit and long may it continue but if you are implying it’s a new Kenny initiative in order to justify his managerial record that scraping the barrel a bit.
IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY
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everton over achieved. we're under achieving.
Luis Garcia, He drinks sangria
He came from Barca, to bring us Joy
He's five foot seven, he's football heaven
please don't take my Luis away.
"...AND 32 MILLION POUNDS WORTH OF GOALKEEPER CAN'T DO A THING ABOUT IT"
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everton over achieved. we're under achieving. We are under achieving and I think our poor return on investment on the £100m put into the team is a big part of it. The team are playing better under Kenny I will give him that but 2 /3 top class players and we would have been in the top 4 I am sure. Kenny made some big mistakes in the transfer market and it could cost him his job if we have a poor second half. Put it this way if you was JH would you trust him with another £100m if it goes badly?
IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY
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Would you trust anyone with 100 million of your money?
"Romance has broke down
This boy is crack'in up"
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for me the only signing he got wrong was carroll. but thats just my opinion
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everton over achieved. we're under achieving. We are under achieving and I think our poor return on investment on the £100m put into the team is a big part of it. The team are playing better under Kenny I will give him that but 2 /3 top class players and we would have been in the top 4 I am sure. Kenny made some big mistakes in the transfer market and it could cost him his job if we have a poor second half. Put it this way if you was JH would you trust him with another £100m if it goes badly? Can I ask you something then Stanley Park, if you think we are under achieving how long do you give it before we accept it's now what we are or have become. I ask this because it is one Champions League in nearly 30 years and no leagues in 22 years and counting, we are without Champions league footie coming up to 3 years, how long do you give it before we accept we are only a big Club historically or in name only as what happend to Leeds United and Everton before us. I would like to know how fans get the idea we have this some sort of devine right to play in the Champions league because of past reputation even though we have never looked capable for the last two seasons and counting.
Last edited by fordfocus; 14/12/11 03:36 AM.
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