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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
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But his positioning and game intelligence is very poor at the moment.



Not having a go becauuse I did not see him at Newcastle but the bit in bold was that ever good with him?


If I can offer a different perspective here. Perhaps we need to stop being silly expecting big things from him, and realize that the reason he was successful at Newcastle was because he had exactly one task - get in the box and score. At LFC he has a lot more tasks, has to add more dimensions to his game, and maybe it is here that Stanley is right; maybe he will never be capable of doing that. But that doesn't mean we can't turn him back into the battering ram he was - maybe we just need to understand that he's a one trick pony, but that his trick is good enough if exploited (something we are woefully far from doing right now).

I just can't help the feeling that he's playing so far outside his comfort zone right now that he cannot do even the most basic of tasks.

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to be fair to the lad his main assist is his heading ability and the service up to him ( crossing wise ) was poor or none existent. if we want to get the best out of him we need to make sure his in the box and start putting in some good crosses in from the bar line

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Caroll did nothing, and has done nothing so far. That is the problem

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Originally Posted By: thundyr

If I can offer a different perspective here. Perhaps we need to stop being silly expecting big things from him, and realize that the reason he was successful at Newcastle was because he had exactly one task - get in the box and score. At LFC he has a lot more tasks, has to add more dimensions to his game, and maybe it is here that Stanley is right; maybe he will never be capable of doing that. But that doesn't mean we can't turn him back into the battering ram he was - maybe we just need to understand that he's a one trick pony, but that his trick is good enough if exploited (something we are woefully far from doing right now).

I just can't help the feeling that he's playing so far outside his comfort zone right now that he cannot do even the most basic of tasks.


You are being silly now. That is exactly what we want him to do, get in the box get in the end of crossess or passes. Did you see how many times Suarez gifted him a ball in the 6 yard box to see him fluff his lines? He is not doing his job at the moment. Watch any young striker, even Ngog, he is doing his job at his respective club, Carroll isn't and he is on terrible form.


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I wonder...suppose you loved your home town club, and another club made an offer for you for 35 million. The owner Ashley comes to you and says, listen Andy, we'll take this transfer, you're going to play crap for a year or so, but you'll be paid even better than you were here, and then we'll buy you back for 10 million. I'll split the extra 25 million with you, and we'll call it a signing on fee when you return.

Hmmm.



And then Dalglish says, "You'll never be sold back to Newcastle". Oops.

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Originally Posted By: Rafarendum
I wonder...suppose you loved your home town club, and another club made an offer for you for 35 million. The owner Ashley comes to you and says, listen Andy, we'll take this transfer, you're going to play crap for a year or so, but you'll be paid even better than you were here, and then we'll buy you back for 10 million. I'll split the extra 25 million with you, and we'll call it a signing on fee when you return.

Hmmm.




OMG well the crafty geordie so and so's


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