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rafa side is not a proven title winning team, kenny team was aproven title wining team.

yes Kenny's team did have title winners left but hand on heart you can see it was on it's last legs, and it was almost impossible to win another league with it. Thats the point I am making about Souness, although he went about things the wrong way in many aspects, no matter who came in was going to have to perform major rebuilding as the team was so old. Kenny was a fantastic player, arguably our greatest ever, he also formed in my opinion Liverpool best ever team which was the 87/88 team, but towards the end of his reign as manager he most definately lost the plot, and the demise of the Club most definately started with him which some of which Souness carried the can for and was used as a scapegoat, If Kenny was'nt who he was alot more of the blame would of been pointed at Kenny.


you have a point for sure, but whereever kenny went, success followed closely, wherever souness went, he failed miserably, im not deny your point, its just i feel the reputation goes ahead of you. Lets exclude glasgow rangers from souness track record.

dalglish went close with newcastle, went to the top with blackburn too.
Souness has success with other clubs, like Rangers, Blackburn and Southampton just by keeping them up and also with Galatasaray not every job he took over failed.

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well, either way, i of the opinion that kenny shoudnt return.

Its a bad open. yea. for sure.


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For the 10th time, we wont get Hiddink. He is in Abramovic's back pocket. Once he leaves the Russian gig he will be at the Chavs.

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For the 10th time, we wont get Hiddink. He is in Abramovic's back pocket. Once he leaves the Russian gig he will be at the Chavs.
Hiddink would never turn down the chance to manage Liverpool Football Club although no longer a big club nowadays we are still a big club in name alongside clubs like Juventus,Benfica, Bayern and Ajax, Hiddink am sure would take over given the chance.

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For the 10th time, we wont get Hiddink. He is in Abramovic's back pocket. Once he leaves the Russian gig he will be at the Chavs.
Hiddink would never turn down the chance to manage Liverpool Football Club although no longer a big club nowadays we are still a big club in name alongside clubs like Juventus,Benfica, Bayern and Ajax, Hiddink am sure would take over given the chance.


Can't beleive I actually agree with you on this one Ged. Chelsea has Ancelotti and he isn't going anywhere. Hiddink will be finished with Russia if they don't qualify for the world cup and no certainties to do so! That will leave the door pen for him to take a domestic job and having already had a feel for the Premier League I think he would be a great fit for us.

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For the 10th time, we wont get Hiddink. He is in Abramovic's back pocket. Once he leaves the Russian gig he will be at the Chavs.


i'm not so sure about that. there's a good chance that he will leave the russian team if they don't make it to the world cup, which means that he could be available already in january. i don't think ancelotti is the kind of manager you would fire just after one season, so i can't see hiddink managing the chelsea team in the near future.


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How about we get behind the current manager we have? He's only taken us to two European cup finals and countless semi finals. Which by the way is hell of a lot more than old red nose achieved in his first five years at Manure. I can throw the FA Cup in as well if you want any more proof that we have the right man for the job. Its all about consistency and not chopping and changing your manager. For f**k sake we lost 2 games in the whole of last season which any other year would have seen us walk away with the leauge title. It was just bad timing that the eventful winners had a player like Ronaldo playing for them who upon times won games on his own.

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i know he has taken us to glory in europe but it is hardly the same feat that the likes of shankly managed when he won us the european cup ..... after all half the prem qualifies for europe these days! half the achievement used to be qualifying - these days its an embarrassment not to qualify!

having said that, while i am frustrated by some (most) of rafa's decisions, i would still keep him as manager this season .... the thing that puts me off about hiddink is that i doubt he would want to invest the time needed to get the youth academy sorted and that has to be the main priority now for the manager

i wish we had got dario gradi when kenny left! imagine what he could do with the pick of youngsters rather than the dregs left over he got at crewe????

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Anybody would have been better than the car crash that was Souness!!


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Originally Posted By: murph75
How about we get behind the current manager we have? He's only taken us to two European cup finals and countless semi finals. Which by the way is hell of a lot more than old red nose achieved in his first five years at Manure. I can throw the FA Cup in as well if you want any more proof that we have the right man for the job. Its all about consistency and not chopping and changing your manager. For f**k sake we lost 2 games in the whole of last season which any other year would have seen us walk away with the leauge title. It was just bad timing that the eventful winners had a player like Ronaldo playing for them who upon times won games on his own.

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Yeah but what does that tell you about the waiter, his team only lost 2 all season, his team got more points than it ever has in the premier league history, his team beat both United and Chelsea home and away and remained unbeaten against Arsenal, his team remained unbeaten at home all season and it still was'nt good enough to win the league ahead of a lets be honest a United team who people say is not as good as previous ones. We have already seen this season that we are not going to hit the heights of last season so if last season as good as people say was'nt good enough what does the future hold, how is the manager in charge going to take us up another level if his best was'nt even good enough.

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