KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum Andy Carroll is worth every penny!

You may be right but then why oh why did we waste £35m on him when it could have been put to so much better use??

A right sided midfielder and a proper striker could have been funded with that money.

WHAT A WASTE.

WHAT A CRYING SHAME.

I have an inkling that a good right winger may help our Andy a bit,don't know why,perhaps it is my sixth or seventh sense kicking in,and to answer your question it was a bit of a panic buy when Torres wanted out,all parties must take some blame for that,Kenny,Commoli,FSG.

Put it down as a lesson learnt if Carroll fails to turn it around.

Wasn't that article written after NCastle had been in the first division.

i still don't agree. yes Andy is not showing that he is worth 35 mil at the moment, but in a years time he will be. Whetehr we can afford to wait that long is another question. Also it is far from true that clubs don't pay such sums of money for an unfinished product...Damiao has had a price tag of 130 million dollars put on his head, bloody hell he is 22. The people are paying for the future as well as the marketing value of the player. ANDY CARROLL WILL COME RIGHT! His lack of goals could very well be down to the lack of quality crosses coming in from the flanks..."D

I would love to believe you mark but the worry I have is I don't see what he has talent wise. Normally in this situation you see things nearly coming off but not quite. I agree good header against city but in the main its hard to see what we have bought and hard to see even in 2 / 3 years (when he will be 26) what will change from what is there now. Thats the worry mate.

I'm veering toward the opinon of stanley - this kind of player won't 'improve' (other than his fitness/ psychological side) Would never say he is not a top quality player though he has proved it before coming to lfc even at a young age- but if everyone was beiong honest on here who would you chooose now him or a 40 million export?

I think it's in the interests of the club that we all reserve judgment. Here's why: -

He hasn't played enough for us to make a fair judgement:

- he was injured when we bought him and only played a couple of games at the end of last season

- he's hardly played this season and when he has he's come on for 10 minutes or so

He has previously shown that he can play

- at Newcsatle he was superb. In everyon's fantasy league team.

- here he has shown that's he's a good striker of the ball (man city last year, everton this year) and he has a thumping header

So I say give the lad time. He's an investment for many seasons not just this one. Forget the price tag except that because the club has paid so much for him, it's in our interests to stop knocking him in forums and adding to the negative cooments from supporters of other teams. By doing so we're only contributing to the pressure and devaluing our own asset.

I take on board what you are saying MLFC. Except for the last sentance this is a forum where opinions are stated. A massively expensive signing not doing the business will always provoke comment. Its also a results business and we cannot wait for ever also commercially if he signed a 5 year deal and only contributes in year 5 what good is that?

I just think sometimes it's better to hold back opinions for a while. I might think he's rubbish (though I don't) and perhaps I wouldn't have paid £35million even at the time, but it's done now and the kid has got potential.

What goes on in supporter Forums, twitter etc. does get through to players if it starts to snowball and can have a detrimental effect. The last thing we want is to contribute to the destruction of a £35million purchase such that we can't even get £10 million for him a season later.

So I'm just suggesting that we should all hold back on expressing conclusive negative judgements... and just go with the line that 'he's been extremely disappointing BUT there are mitigating factors and we'll give hime some time yet to show what he can do'.

Agreed that year 5 would be a bit late to produce the goods, but he's only played a handful of games if that. Way, way too early to write him off. I'd say give hime this season - hopefully he can get some more game time - and then another full season. By then we should know.

Well ok MLFC. But if thats the situation what a rotten deal it was. Heads should roll in the scouting department for this and if its Daglish then Henry should warn him in no uncertain terms there can be NO repeats of this farce,
Normally a £35m player would contribute from day one and in a big way remember Torres at £24m or Suarez £23m? This deal was for a promising youngster (at 22 years of age) who may or may not come good. That is nuts. Totally and utterly barking mad nuts. And if he is reading these forums and its undermining his fragile confidence further and we need to hold back for fear of upsetting him further than frankly I am speachless.