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First of all either have the guts to name me as hypocrite in the first place instead of hiding behind the most LFC fans headline,and if you use my posts to get your point over quote the whole post not just the parts that suit your gripe,also my post has nothing to do what so ever about Rafa its about Fergie and that's because we have done the Rafa moans on other threads so again stop hijacking every post to get your tiresome thoughts over.But just to stroke your ego ill comment on Rafa,I admire Rafa for his successes for us regardless of his faults, it changes nothing about my lack of respect for Fergie mostly because the two have nothing to do with each other,if your desperate to have your weekly rant then start your own Rafa/Fergie comparison thread. ferguson wins cups aqnd leagues and if he was manager of liverpool he would be loved for what he says and does , and thats my point benitez wasnt humble not one bit even now he isnt humble but liverpool suppoters love him and didnt win leagues just hypocrisy in my opinion , because ferguson has a go at officials and other teams he is wrong but when benitez used to do it he was backed and given the green light to carry on and some want him back .
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Sahl from Singapore - I admire your enthusiasm for LFC but I don’t feel your perception matches the reality. The idea Liverpool players and staff are somehow nicer people is a nice thought but complete fantasy I am afraid. I can tell you plenty of examples where Liverpool players are ignorant I will tell you one today who is well known for its Stephen Gerrard who will blank you regularly. I have dealt with both Carragher and Gerrard many times and they are chalk and cheese in personality / friendliness thats not the club it’s just their personality. The same will be the case with Manchester Utd players I am sure. Your analogy with Fowler clearly shows what an idiot Fowler was and how he threw his career away. Via my company based in Manchester I manage 12 Manchester Utd season tickets I have dealt with Liverpool, and both Manchester Utd and Manchester City for over 25 years on corporate entertainment. In fact I am going to an away day at Manchester Utd in a few weeks not my idea by the way! I can tell you without any doubt whatsoever there is no difference in culture between any of these clubs how well they treat you depends on the employee you deal with. So please remove yourself from this false perception you are just kidding yourself my friend.
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Sahl from Singapore - I admire your enthusiasm for LFC but I don’t feel your perception matches the reality. The idea Liverpool players and staff are somehow nicer people is a nice thought but complete fantasy I am afraid. I can tell you plenty of examples where Liverpool players are ignorant I will tell you one today who is well known for its Stephen Gerrard who will blank you regularly. I have dealt with both Carragher and Gerrard many times and they are chalk and cheese in personality / friendliness thats not the club it’s just their personality. The same will be the case with Manchester Utd players I am sure. Your analogy with Fowler clearly shows what an idiot Fowler was and how he threw his career away. Via my company based in Manchester I manage 12 Manchester Utd season tickets I have dealt with Liverpool, and both Manchester Utd and Manchester City for over 25 years on corporate entertainment. In fact I am going to an away day at Manchester Utd in a few weeks not my idea by the way! I can tell you without any doubt whatsoever there is no difference in culture between any of these clubs how well they treat you depends on the employee you deal with. So please remove yourself from this false perception you are just kidding yourself my friend. stanley your right , its just blind faith liverpool players the club ETC ETC all sweetness and light everyone else evil and nasty , well thats all fine but untrue , i know people who have been in fergusons company and says he is brilliant very different to the persona as a football manager , and lets get it right about steven gerrard great great player but not a nice fella same goes for liverpool great tommy smith legend great player one horrible man to talk to .
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I wouldn't love Fergie, i don't like him! its wrong of you to assume i would,you have been told before Rafas faults were there for all to see and for all to love or dislike regardless, as you have pointed out about Fergie, if you win trophies your loved,except in your case it seems? as you have no respect for Rafa even tho he won trophies! strange that!  i wont reply to defend Rafa here again its not a Rafa thread,start your own i dislike Rafa thread or Rafa/Fergie comparison thread. you know you want to.
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Faz I have been in Fergusons company (well once at same do Wilmslow Golf club). I know people who know him very well and he is a really nice guy no edge to him at all he will talk to anyone even plebs like me. His wife though is a horror and treats people like dirt she is the Govan girl come good and likes to let everyone know how good she is. Ferguson really nice guy and so is Kenny too by all accounts.
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I wouldn't love Fergie, i don't like him! its wrong of you to assume i would,you have been told before Rafas faults were there for all to see and for all to love or dislike regardless, as you have pointed out about Fergie, if you win trophies your loved,except in your case it seems? as you have no respect for Rafa even tho he won trophies! strange that!  i wont reply to defend Rafa here again its not a Rafa thread,start your own i dislike Rafa thread or Rafa/Fergie comparison thread. you know you want to. trophies benitez ok yes early on and got credit for it , but he didnt have this nasty edge then , but ferguson has won league after league took united to the top of world and european and english football , and my point is lverpool fans dont have to respect ferguson thats ok but you cant say things like he is nasty , not humble etc etc etc and then in the next breath say rafa benitez was great just total hypocrisy .
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Faz I have been in Fergusons company (well once at same do Wilmslow Golf club). I know people who know him very well and he is a really nice guy no edge to him at all he will talk to anyone even plebs like me. His wife though is a horror and treats people like dirt she is the Govan girl come good and likes to let everyone know how good she is. Ferguson really nice guy and so is Kenny too by all accounts. kenny is sound so is roy evans and i know you have a gripe about robbie fowler but i met him many of time as my mate was a teamate of his when they were in the ressies and on at least 2 occassions fantastic lad , but i suppose its the time and place , but i cant agree with this hypocrisy from liverpool fans if ferguson was manager of liverpool winning leagues and cups he would be loved .
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Well you may have had a nice bottle of red with Fergie or even spent time in the pub with friends of friends to discuss the niceties fergie has around his own dinner table but i go like most of us less privileged than you on what i see and hear on the telly,to me he comes across as arrogant,downright nasty to some who simply ask questions as is their job, or indeed do their job and are put at risk of losing their living because of what he says,now that's not nice is it? and certainly not very social of him either considering his apparent labour views,i don't need to take everyone else's behaviour into this no matter who they are as i am giving my opinion on Fergie with no comparisons needed.
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Faz I know Fowler is a nice lad I just feel if he had been more professional with his career (the drinking and acting the goat) he would not have suffered the loss in form for that spell which led him to try too hard resulting in the clash with Thomas Myre which effectively ended his career. Just my theory it might not be true.
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Well you may have had a nice bottle of red with Fergie or even spent time in the pub with friends of friends to discuss the niceties fergie has around his own dinner table but i go like most of us less privileged than you on what i see and hear on the telly,to me he comes across as arrogant,downright nasty to some who simply ask questions as is their job, or indeed do their job and are put at risk of losing their living because of what he says,now that's not nice is it? and certainly not very social of him either considering his apparent labour views,i don't need to take everyone else's behaviour into this no matter who they are as i am giving my opinion on Fergie with no comparisons needed. Fair enough thats your view but perceptions are not always the reality.
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