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You seem to be forgetting Thunder that since kenny has taken over ouyr record against sides in the top 10 has been far better than that agaimnst siudes in the lower half of the table

We've beaten:

Man Utd
Man City
Chelsea (twice)
Arsenal
Newcastle
Everton

Whereas we haven't beaten:

Blackpool
Swansea
Norwich
WBA
Stoke
Wigan

There's a clear pattern there

Based on that, I'd rather be playing top sides than weaker ones - as we always seem toi be able to raise our game (firgetting the Spurs debacle of course)

The fact we're not playing any for some time after the City game is a cause for concern because we too often seem unable to kill them off

until we correct that we can't really claim to be a good side

we have beaten WBA and stoke on occasions. I think agains boring teams that park the bus, we get frustrated by not scoring, and things deteriorate, even if we play fantastically to begin with. I think it's because the players are both new and young. Once the squad has gelled and developed some experience (along with discipline and character) they have the talent to become something much more dangerous and more consistent. Top 4 will be tough this year, but not impossible.

I agree with that Jim. What I was referring to was that we'd be doing relatively worse were clubs like Spurs and City not in the top handful. a) We'd struggle to get the result we want because we'd be overconfident [though right now we could easily come away with 0 points from them after the first round of games], and b) these clubs would not be taking points off our rivals.

We absolutely need to be putting the mid to bottom table clubs away, by 3 or more goals preferably so that the others do not think they have a chance against our suspect defense. Until we address that we'll remain on the outside looking in, but the fact that of the top sides only Spurs have beaten us (with only City and Newcastle to come) we can be confident of getting results against our peers in the second half of the season, particularly since we play most of them at Anfield.

We need to take our chances better, practice unlocking stubborn defenses. We're not sufficiently gelled enough to attack as a unit rather than as a handful of players, and unless Kenny sorts that out we'll have more draws that we can't afford.

The pattern i am seeing is

Swansea and norwich are newly promoted so have only played them once each , so probabilty is slightly lower, still you could have bunged in QPR I guess

Benayoun was the man for that task. He is free this Jan ?

wouldnt really want him back, his not getting any younger and his probably on high wages so its a NO from me

I think we have the keys to unlocking defenses in Luis. But he needs help....we all agree we need a finisher (cavani please) but in the absence of a clinical striker and given that Lucas-Adam partnership if beginning to flourish ..I'd go with Stevie up top. He's an excellent finisher imo, did great with torres ( similar to Luis) and it might save him from having to do as much running...could.be an option???

Agree with Sam. We lack creativity and someone who dares to bring the ball forward with him. We need Stevie G!

Any idea when Stevie will be back? Man City game, maybe?

More to the point he wouldn't want to come back after bragging in some interview that given the choice between Arsenal and Liverpool it was Arsenal everytime for him

F*** him

his at arsenal so he couldnt really say us over them could he?. i personally wouldnt want him back anyway. IMO we need players with pace who can take pple on and stretch the game and make space for other players