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Originally Posted By: Snakeye
Agree, Johnson is definately is a better rounded full back than Kelly. While Kelly is a good defender (better than Johnson some might argue) but Johnson has the attacking ability that very few defenders have. I will definately start him ahead of Kelly everytime he is fit.


Depends. Some might say that we're doing fine creating chances at the other end of the pitch (if not so good at knocking them in), but could do better than shipping a goal every single game. Maybe Kelly is not the more rounded fullback, but surely if we need a defender (rather than just defending deep and losing forward impetus in midfield like we've done of late - 3 draws from 5) then Kelly should be getting a look in?

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Does anybody think Kenny should test Kelly at center back, partnering Daniel Agger. I do not know why, but it just seems like it would be a solid partnership.

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If it works don't break it. Right now our defence comprising Enrique, Agger, Skrtle and Johnson are just about the best there is with a fantastic track record.


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I mean testing it on carling cup games, we can't just leave players on the bench all the time, you need to test and try.

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Originally Posted By: Jim Tonez
Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1

he is better than kelly, martin is a good lad but johnson is better and will play unless he is injured guarantee that.


Totally agree

Kelly is solid but he could never have scored a goal like johnson did against chelsea and stories of johnson's allegedly lamentable defending are mnuch exaggerated

I don't really understand the hype surrounding Kelly on these forums

As I said he looks a great prospect but at the moment he is johnson's understudy - and should remain as such

johnson's one of our most underrared players


No hype on kelly he's a better defender than Glen johnson like half hte premier league right backs are better defenders than G Johnson

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Originally Posted By: aldo
I mean testing it on carling cup games, we can't just leave players on the bench all the time, you need to test and try.


Johnson-Kelly-Agger-Enrique next week at the Bridge, you mean? Doesn't seem particularly sound since Skrtel wasn't really to blame for the goal we conceded, and a change in the center back pair has to be something that takes time to settle. If we can stifle them in midfield again there is no reason to change anyone (though we would need to be aware that AVB isn't likely to start Mikel next time out, and Mata will be more of a threat because of that).

Frankly the time to test Kelly there (assuming testing him at CB is higher on the agenda than Coates) is in the early FA Cup rounds against some random side at Anfield (assuming we ever get drawn to play a home cup game, that is).

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If I was going to change anything from the Chelsea game my team would be;

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Kelly Skrtle Agger Enrique

Johnson Adam Downing

Bellamy Carroll Suarez
I would bring in Maxi on 60 mins if Downing wasn't performing and Kuyt for Carroll if he doesn't perform.

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If I was going to change anything from the Chelsea game my team would be;

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Kelly Skrtle Agger Enrique

Johnson Adam Downing

Bellamy Carroll Suarez
I would bring in Maxi on 60 mins if Downing wasn't performing and Kuyt for Carroll if he doesn't perform.


That's a brave formation but I fear v City we'd get ripped apart

Downing and Johnson are wide players so playing them in a central midfield strikes me as odd - and Adam needs a holding player like Lucas aslongside him to get the best out of him

A central midfield of these three would just get ripped apart by City and I don't see them supplying much amunition for the 3 up front players

If I were to go 4-3-3 I'd pick

GK Reina
RB Jognson
CN Skrtel
CB Agger
LB Jose Enrique
DM Lucas
DM Adam
AM Gerrard (if not fit Henderson)
LF Bellamy
ST Suarez
RF Kuyt

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I like your selection Jim
I also agree that we do need to give the others a turn, but leave that to the cup games.


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Originally Posted By: Jim Tonez
Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1

he is better than kelly, martin is a good lad but johnson is better and will play unless he is injured guarantee that.


Totally agree

Kelly is solid but he could never have scored a goal like johnson did against chelsea and stories of johnson's allegedly lamentable defending are mnuch exaggerated

I don't really understand the hype surrounding Kelly on these forums

As I said he looks a great prospect but at the moment he is johnson's understudy - and should remain as such

johnson's one of our most underrared players
i agree

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