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Agree 100% Stanley that everyone has the right to express their opinion and if he logged on here and read it then he has to deal with it.
I don't think that the fee or his wages can be used as a justification for giving criticism or for justifying an opinion on his form (not saying that you are Stanley - but in general). If he is playing badly he is playing badly - it's not because he cost 35m and if I am tired of reading that tag line imagine how he feels??

Well we have to see something from him certainly before the end of the season. He is not a kid making his way up he is 22 and a full england international. But more importantly we need him to do well he is our main striker. If he is not up to that we need to sell and replace him. We will be in a massive loss situation though both on th write off of the £35m and having to spend £30m or so on a replacement. I am not sure what that will mean re John Henry and Dalglish relationship and trust on getting value on future signings. If I was John Henry I would be asking serious questions over how we got it so wrong. If of course thats the way it pans out.

Agreed Stanley, they will definitely view it more dispassionately than fans do and will do so in terms of return for investment. We definitely need him to start firing on all cylinders but the big question is how do we do that? By giving him 100% support I think is the best way - it is a big investment for the club and one we need to work.
I think of the Crouch situation when he arrived and how much support he got from fans when not scoring and I can't help thinking that if AC's price tag was 10m then the reaction would be totally different so do we have a bigger problem with how he is playing or what we paid for him?

The only way we could do that is the kop sing his name or have song about him. Whatever we put on here is irrelevant.

But that is a two way street Andy needs to meet us halfway. Maybe the opportunity is the city game.

Lets hope if he is picked he plays like he did in the same fixture last season!

Amen. The most pertinent post in this topic.


The travesty is thinking what could have been with that type of budget being spent elsewhere, and how we would now look?.............Giving City a run I'd imagine.

Agree with pretty much all that there Stan,but does Henry have the right to ask questions,he did appoint Commoli has his go to guy about this type of thing,who does he question?

Commoli,Dalglish or his own judgement,who actually reffered Commoli to him?

What good would a proper rain do to him? Maybe get the old bar code colours out of him?

Seriously spoken I agree!

Even if it was a panic buy it was certainly backed by some magic stats provided from Comolli.

I'm sure Carroll will come good with the right management and training, but for £ 35 M? Don't think so I'm afraid!

Do you think he will come good van gogh? whats he ever done a few scuffles at Newcastle for six months and thats it. I fear its the biggest [oops] in football history. He has no track record as far as i can see. Now I could be totally wrong and if so delighted to admit so. But for me from what I have seen I am totally baffled. Never mind £35m if we had paid £10m we would not be happy on performance so far.

I can't say I had full control of the Carrol facts file before, but now that I have I'm just stunned!

To splash out that kind of money on a relatively unproven youngster, there certainly has to be some amazing stats to back the decision, right?!

But what did I find? Look here and get benumbed!


Year Team Matches Goals

2006–2011 Newcastle United 80 31

2007–2008 Preston North End (loan) 11 1

2011– Liverpool 16 4


National team

2007–2008 England U19 8 4

2009–2010 England U21 5 2

2010– England 3 1


Stanley, I just tried to see the positive side of things, and I guess we'll have to believe that Andy's form from those months when he produced some magics in Newcastle will eventually return.