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then you are completely wrong - wenger has won more than rafa and in more style too! ..... i would love us to have a better manager than wenger but we don't ..... rafa's champions league win and fa cup hardly compares to the prem and fa cups wenger's teams have won!

Top 4, lack of investment in the team in the summer and the constant instability at the club makes it hard to demand either the Premiership or the CL this season.

lack of investment???? whats was the 20 million each nearly on Mascherano, Torres, Keane and Johnson about then you cant seriously say he has not been given serious funds, you tell me another top four team thats has spent as much as we have on a full back for a start.

bosingwa was the same price as johnson

think bosingwa was 16 million, Johnson was 18 million that could rise with add on like england caps and appearances e.t.c. whatever it was Johnsom is still the dearest full back, so anyone who thinks the waiter has'nt been backed is kissing themselves, you cant blame the owners for not providing funds thats for sure.

bosingwa was 18mill - might be including add ons though .... and yes i know johnson costs more but what i meant to finish off with was that chelsea wanted johnson to replace bosingwa

if you feel wenger is better than rafa go support arsenal we dont need you

get a life - you need to learn that support is not blind! i got no time for idiots like you - i love the club - rafa is just the manager

if you don't like it that's your problem not mine

yup too much yes man....i guess every boss wants that attitude...???

Thats nonsense.

Last season we came closest to winning the Premiership than for 19 years, beating Real Madrid in CL, doing double over Utd and Chelsea in the league.

Last season our problem was that we didn't put away sides at Anfield and therefore needed some more creativity going forward.

We lost Alonso in the summer, an important loss as he set the rythmn of the team. However he wanted to leave and was willing to push for that and we did get top money.

We've signed Johnson, who has been a revelation going forward and given us an extra dimension.

Now given the fact that our problem was breaking down teams last season the signing of Johnson and Aquilani has been designed to address that problem.

We spent no money in the summer when we should have had enough money to invest in our squad but that money went in interest payments to the banks on the debt the club has.

If you have not got the money but can sign someone who is more worth money than you have, but is injured, sometimes its worth the gamble ... the issue with Aquilani is not 4 months he'll miss but the next 5 years to see whether it is a good or bad decision.

Therefore to say he is 'lazy' is ridiculous. Rafa has taken a gamble using the resources available.

Monster is a world class player, I think 90% of LFC fans agree on that. Senna is too old, Mela is a good player but doesnt dominate games, neither offer an improvement on Monster.

Now I know you would have preferred us to sign Richard Dunne and Kevin Doyle...