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Originally Posted By: Marko2709
It's hard not to notice that there have been hundreds and hundreds of posts belittling Kenny and his achievments aswell as the players, yet none of the people complaining so much seem to have anything to say about what needs to be changed. I cannot help but to think they are posting simply to get a reaction. It's incredible taht with so many negative posts none of them have anythiing to say about how they would improve things on the pitch!


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What would I change?

For a start I would use all my 3 substitions to try and change a game instead of standing there thinking and hoping for a slice of luck, thats what is bugging me about Kenny at the moment.


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1) I'd stop playing Henderson & Downing on the flanks. Henderson, because it's not his natural oosition and Downing because he's on a poor run of form, replacing them with Maxi Rodriguez and Bellamy respectively

2) Likewise Carroll. Suarez has been oiyr moist dangerous in almost every game he's played (no exaggeration) so alongside him you need the player who has the best understanding and at the moment that is Dirk Kuyt, not Carroll (despite the latter's excessive pricetag)

At the moment my team would be:

GK Reina
RB Johnson
CB Carragher (just)
CB Agger
LB Jose Enrique
AB Lucas
RW Maxi Rodriguez
CM Adam
LW Bellamy
RF Kuyt
LF Suarez

Gerrard in for Adam when he returns to the team and if Maxi can't step up to the challenge onb the right I'd replace him with Johnson and draft in Kelly at right back

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Originally Posted By: Marko2709

It's hard not to notice that there have been hundreds and hundreds of posts belittling Kenny and his achievments aswell as the players


i take your point. Those who criticise need to offer alternatives but what are these 'achievements' you speak of

The only thing Kenny and the team have achieved thus far this season is in dampening the expectations of those fans who did genuinely thing we had a good shout for getting back into the CL this season

Drawing to the likes of Norwich and Swansea infront of our own fans simply isn't good enough - not by a long way when you look at the cost of their squads and ours

Daglish and his players are getting stick at the moment because they are underachieving on a big scale

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That would be my team at the moment as well. Downing his been poor so I don't understand why kenny is persistent, if it was any other manager, he would not start based on his form. Hendersen has actually impressed me lately so I would keep him in and around the first team but Downing is the one thats been disapointing. Also, Suarez and Kuyt were the best partnership last season so again I do not understand why Kenny has deployed him on the right and broke up that partnership.


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Originally Posted By: Jim Tonez
Originally Posted By: Marko2709

It's hard not to notice that there have been hundreds and hundreds of posts belittling Kenny and his achievments aswell as the players


i take your point. Those who criticise need to offer alternatives but what are these 'achievements' you speak of

The only thing Kenny and the team have achieved thus far this season is in dampening the expectations of those fans who did genuinely thing we had a good shout for getting back into the CL this season

Drawing to the likes of Norwich and Swansea infront of our own fans simply isn't good enough - not by a long way when you look at the cost of their squads and ours

Daglish and his players are getting stick at the moment because they are underachieving on a big scale


Since you asked "what achievments?", allow me to answer. The change of mood in the dressing room is a big achievment, the fact that players are actually disgruntled at not winning games against the mancs and so on is a big achievment. Kenny has reignited the hunger that players who played for LFC once had and that was missing for the past 4 or 5 years! The unity in the club is another big achievment! Building a squad which will be able to fight at the very top of europe in years to come is a big achievment. Having the world talking about LFC is a hude commercial achievment! Not so long ago people were laughing at us whilst the Hicks and Gillet were in power, then when Hodgson took over. We were a luaghing stock in the footballing world. Kenny and Commolli have changed that. There are people talking about the club in a positive manner, there is a sense that we will soon be back at the top of our game and the top of league! The one thing that needed to be changed first, before anything, was to create a positive atmosphere and let the players and fans know that there is a bright future in store and that the club is going forward. That was no easy task after the slump we have been in! That alone is a big enough achievment to earn Kenny and the guys in control more respect and patience from the fans! Rome wasn't built in a day and any great team takes time to develop! I have said it before and will say it again, ONLY KIDS EXPECT INSTANT GRATIFICATION! If you want something you have to work hard for it!

If you were to ask me what Kenny's greatest achievment has been since returning in a managing role, I would have to say returning confidence, belief and smiles to the players at the club!


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Amen to that, well said!


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Originally Posted By: Marko2709

If you were to ask me what Kenny's greatest achievment has been since returning in a managing role, I would have to say returning confidence, belief and smiles to the players at the club!


Fair point

The unity amongst both fans and players is back – something that was missing at the end of rafa’s reign and throughout Roy Hodgson’s miserable spell at the club

I’ll grant you that Kenny definitely deserves plaudits for that

Originally Posted By: Marko2709

Building a squad which will be able to fight at the very top of europe in years to come is a big achievment. Having the world talking about LFC is a hude commercial achievment! Not so long ago people were laughing at us whilst the Hicks and Gillet were in power, then when Hodgson took over. We were a luaghing stock in the footballing world. Kenny and Commolli have changed that.


I simply cannot agree with any of that

The squad Kenny has built so far doesn’t look capable of getting into the top 4 – so it takes a huge leap of imagination to say one of his achievements is ‘building a squad which will be able to fight at the very top of europe in years to come’

On what evidence doi you base such an outlandush and brash claim? The lame home draws against Norwich and Swansea?

With regards to Comoli, he’s been a failure wherever he’s gone and the early signs suggest exactly the same will be the case at LFC.

Who else would pay the inflated prices we paid for Carroll, Henderson and Downing than someone with a track record of getting it wrong. Remember £15m for David Bentley

Originally Posted By: Marko2709

‘there is a sense that we will soon be back at the top of our game and the top of league!’


Amongst who? The same blind faithers who tell us year after year that this will be our season. No one else seems to share that view – not Liverpool fans and certainly not the wider footballing world

Tottenham look the most likely team to get 4th spot and you’d even fancy Arsenal over us given that they’ve caught up with us already despite their horrendous start to the season

You can't paint this one - it's been a truly awful start to the season and those good results against Arsenal and Everton have counted for nothing as we've shot ourselves in the foot in subsequent games.

You can't 'spin' this one

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I'd change carrols hair pony tails dont work in football and i would make him shave

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