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don't talk rubbish ged - rafa wanted aguero when the price was 3.6 mill but parry, in his infinite 'wisdom', decided the price was too high .... so no we could not have had aguero
there are numerous similar occasions too
as for calling johnson defensive you are just showing what kind of idiot you are! his problem is he can't defend ffs!
bob paisley regularly spent big money on players - are you going to tell me he was crap because he needed to break the bank for players? or perhaps clough was rubbish coz he spent a mill on trevor francis? or fergiescum doesn't know what he is doing because he spends big money on players regularly? Listen you wa*nker dont be calling me an idiot your the kn0b head on here as everyone knows. I made a valid point and i donnt want t0sser's like you trying to have a go. If you did'nt know Johnson plays right back and that is a defensive position like centre half and left back, Johnson might attack but his position in the team is defence and thats the point I am making. Bob Paisley never spent big money on players like you mean he did break the bank on a few like Souey, Kenny and Mark Lawrenson who were all record buys at the time but mostly he seen potential and turned them into good players like McDermott, Alan Kennedy and Alan Hansen. If you have a good enough manager in place you dont need to break the bank for players, if that was the case United would of won leagues right throughout the 80s because they always broke the transfer record on players, the waiter has been given sufficent funds it's just that his judgement on players has let him down and thats why Gillette even though a fool was right to lay the blame firmly at the managers door when asked about the clubs poor start to the season.
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ooooooo did i touch a nerve there ged? you are clueless - your point was not valid because, as per usual, you allowed your hatred of rafa to blind you to the truth and twisted it all in your mind to follow your pathetic anti-rafa stance
united carried on breaking transfer records all through fergiescum's reign and winning league titles - good managers spend money just the same as bad managers, it is merely their choice of players that is better ...... as i pointed out until this last transfer window rafa has not had a free hand in choosing transfers and so it is difficult to judge him ..... so far his record is not good at all but is that because of the interference or is that his fault? who the hell knows?
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xabi was run out of the club? he was here 5 years so he was hardly pushed out the door quickly was he?
i do agree that rafa does try to turn footie matches into a game of tactical chess, rather than trying to outplay opponents, unfortunately!
as for the signings thing, i think you have summed up so well what too many people really believe! it should always be remembered that rafa chose the bad ones as well as the good ones - they might not have been his first choices but they were all on his list of potential targets!
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i agree, he lost players cos they didnt want to pay.
The sea, will be the sea, whatever the drops philosophy!
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now i'm confused, so guys which do you think is our main problem, the money or the coach? do you think if someone injects 150m pounds just for buying players we can win title straight away? or rafa will buying stupidly...i don't know i think we still need to buy at least 3 more super quality players if we wanna win the title
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Yep true trepie and Emp, but rafa also made some good signings. Alonso was a good signing, Torres, Reina. These 3 are magnificent signings, and although Torres cost a lot, the other two certainly didn't. Benayoun was cheap and has done well, Johnson looks like he could be good, just needs to settle in, Insua looks a good youngster (who cost us how much?), Skrtel and Agger have potential too, so lets not say that his signings have been awful. He has made some very good transfers.
Also for those who believe Rafa only signs defensive type players...I have to agree with Trepie, that Johnson is an attacking type player. Sure he plays in defence, but there aren't many more attacking rightbacks around. You can't suggest a manager only thinks about defensive players because he signs a goalie, that's stupid. Also Alonso was signed as a creative player. Babel, Riera and Benayoun and Torres. ofcorse Johnson is an attacking full back but at the end of the day he is a full back and what team buys full backs for 20 million pound when the rest of the other positions are in a far worse state and in a far more urgent need to be put right.Thats my point about the fat waiter's judgement on how he thinks a Liverpool team should be, a couple of seasons ago he spent 20 million pounds virtualy on another defensive player in Mascherano, he knew the club was skint and he also knew when he bought Mascherano in January that he would be digging into the clubs Summer transfer kitty, why did he buy this wasteless peice of rubbish when evryone in the world knew we needed to spend the money on a partner for Torres, a winger or someone who was going to turn all the draws we were getting into wins. This is management of gross incompetency we are seeing, he even tried to do the same again by buying Gareth Barry when we were still crying out for an attacking player.
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No surprise there. He's not going to blame himself.
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