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We dont want Benitez back, end of, the man is toxic and should be put in the same bracket as John Stape in Coronation Street for damage done.
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What's unbelievable is your entirely one-dimensional view of Rafa Faz
i agree that he messed up in his last season and it was right that he went when he did but Rafa turned us into one of the big european clubs again and who can forget our big wins against the likes of Inter, Barcelona, Real Madrid, Juventus
to dismiss him as someone who just wasted millions forgets our achievements in the champions league under his watch and there is no doubt in my mind that the starting 11 we had during the 2008-09 season was the best team we have had since we lkast won the lkeagyue and for all his failures in the Premiership he is still the manager who got us closest to it and the only manager whose side has ever lost only 2 games in a league campaign without winning it
and blaming all of inter's current problems on rafa is ludicrous given he left almost a year ago
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What's unbelievable is your entirely one-dimensional view of Rafa Faz
i agree that he messed up in his last season and it was right that he went when he did but Rafa turned us into one of the big european clubs again and who can forget our big wins against the likes of Inter, Barcelona, Real Madrid, Juventus
to dismiss him as someone who just wasted millions forgets our achievements in the champions league under his watch and there is no doubt in my mind that the starting 11 we had during the 2008-09 season was the best team we have had since we lkast won the lkeagyue and for all his failures in the Premiership he is still the manager who got us closest to it and the only manager whose side has ever lost only 2 games in a league campaign without winning it
and blaming all of inter's current problems on rafa is ludicrous given he left almost a year ago how can you not blame him for the waste of the clubs millions and his part in the clubs fall from grace , its easy btop blame roy hodgson for the clubs downfall but the damage was done by benitez , as for inter milan he took over the european champions and league champions and sent them backwards very very quickly and answer me this why isnt he managing a club now if he is this top manager ?
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i didn't say he was a top manager, he's just nowhere near as bad as you are making out
hicks and gillet were the main reason for our fall from grace - because all our money was swallowed up by the interest payments for the debt these two cowboys saddled onto the club - rather than investing in the team
rafa isn't without fault - his biggest mistake was trying to replace alonso with the greedy gareth barry and once the spaniard left his team fell apart - but to focus on his last season in charge and forget about those seasons before and our achievents in europe is ridicolius
perhaps you're too young to remember them
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Rafa was not as bad as made out but there is no way he is the answer he had his chance and was not quite good enough. Anyway don't we have a new manager in Kenny?
IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY
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i didn't say he was a top manager, he's just nowhere near as bad as you are making out
hicks and gillet were the main reason for our fall from grace - because all our money was swallowed up by the interest payments for the debt these two cowboys saddled onto the club - rather than investing in the team
rafa isn't without fault - his biggest mistake was trying to replace alonso with the greedy gareth barry and once the spaniard left his team fell apart - but to focus on his last season in charge and forget about those seasons before and our achievents in europe is ridicolius
perhaps you're too young to remember them its you taking like a 12 year old mate benitez left the club in ruins mate , and yes they done well in europe great brilliant but he dismissed the domestic cup every season and one title challenge which he made a pills of with his rant and poor tactic and team selections in december 08 and jan/feb 09 plus the millions and millions wasted on below standard players some they club still cant get rid of aquilani .
Last edited by fazakerley red 1; 23/10/11 11:47 PM.
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he did win the champions league - and with a squad that's even worst than the one we have at the moment
as stanley park says, he had his chance and it didn't work out, but to dismiss everything he did in the champions league - a competition which we'd only been in twice before - is the talk of the modern football fan who wants it all and wants it now
if you hate benitez this much i dread to think what you thought of the reigns of Sounness, Evans, Houllier and Hodgson - because rafa was better than those four - there's no question about that
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how ridculous just unbelievable , if king rafa was such a top coach answer me this why isnt he working ? and why did he take italy's best team to the being one of the worst ? Ok, first of sly, I don't want Rafa back, yet...but truth be told, he did play 2 CL finals with Valencia and with LFC and he has reached the latter occasions of the champions league on numerous occasions. Bringing in the demise of inter is ridiculous for 2 reasons. Rafa inherited a squad of geriatrics who just won the champs league, and it is normal for a club to have a lull after such an achievement. Secondly, the Italian league is so corrupt that many of those games inter lost were fixed,this Is clear as daylight. The reason rafa is not managing at the moment is because he does not wish to, he has had numerous offers from England, Spain, Italy, china and Germany but he is not interested at the moment. He wants to return to the English game on his terms. You cannot take away the mans achievements and they are numerous. I am sure he had a role to play in the loss of communication and team spirit but to say he was useless and a cancer and a bad manager is plain old ridiculous. That's my view and an objective one. Perhaps posters should get their facts straight before posting on here. You asked why he isn't working at the moment, as a manager, the answer is BECAUSE HE ChOOSES not too. Not because he is useless.
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how ridculous just unbelievable , if king rafa was such a top coach answer me this why isnt he working ? and why did he take italy's best team to the being one of the worst ? Ok, first of sly, I don't want Rafa back, yet...but truth be told, he did play 2 CL finals with Valencia and with LFC and he has reached the latter occasions of the champions league on numerous occasions. Bringing in the demise of inter is ridiculous for 2 reasons. Rafa inherited a squad of geriatrics who just won the champs league, and it is normal for a club to have a lull after such an achievement. Secondly, the Italian league is so corrupt that many of those games inter lost were fixed,this Is clear as daylight. The reason rafa is not managing at the moment is because he does not wish to, he has had numerous offers from England, Spain, Italy, china and Germany but he is not interested at the moment. He wants to return to the English game on his terms. You cannot take away the mans achievements and they are numerous. I am sure he had a role to play in the loss of communication and team spirit but to say he was useless and a cancer and a bad manager is plain old ridiculous. That's my view and an objective one. Perhaps posters should get their facts straight before posting on here. You asked why he isn't working at the moment, as a manager, the answer is BECAUSE HE ChOOSES not too. Not because he is useless. ok yeh !!!!
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Ah christ give it a break, rafa did a fine job at start, it unravelled at the end just the same as any other management job. I agree with the point that the signings are dodge but can we give kd the season and see where we are? I don't see too many top level candidates jumping into our fire to be honest. So can we please back who we have, players and management till the end of the season and go from there
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