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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
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If Suarez is found to have racially abused Evra what do we think is a fitting ban?,5,10,15 games and a fine?.Do we sell him on?

Also if Evra is found to be a liar,does he deserve a ban that is just as harsh?


Also,anybody that thinks racial abuse is no big deal,please leave the forum.


At name-calling level, I don't think calling Evra a n1gger is any worse than a player calling another player, fat, gay, ugly, ginger etc..
If you're talking about proper discrimiantion then yes, that would be wrong. But we're not - we're talking about someone claiming to have been called a name by another player. If that upsets you, why don't 'you' leave the forum?




So you think racism is no big deal?,grow up or better yet,educate yourself.


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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
Originally Posted By: wakka
If Suarez is found to have racially abused Evra what do we think is a fitting ban?,5,10,15 games and a fine?.Do we sell him on?

Also if Evra is found to be a liar,does he deserve a ban that is just as harsh?


Also,anybody that thinks racial abuse is no big deal,please leave the forum.


At name-calling level, I don't think calling Evra a n1gger is any worse than a player calling another player, fat, gay, ugly, ginger etc..
If you're talking about proper discrimiantion then yes, that would be wrong. But we're not - we're talking about someone claiming to have been called a name by another player. If that upsets you, why don't 'you' leave the forum?


what's "proper discrimination"? can't wait to hear you define that. do you do children's parties?

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To me, racial discrimination is about preventing someone from being part of something purely BECAUSE of their race. For example, not giving someone a job because of their colour or not letting someone compete in something because of their colour. Therefore they are being discriminated against. Calling someone a name might be unpleasant but it's not even close to discrimination. Name calling is just that - name calling. Nothing more, nothing less and we shouldn't let people use the race card to make themselves seem like more of a victim than others who have been called different names, as it trivialises racism. To sum up, racial discrimination is very wrong. But calling someone n1gger is no more hurtful than calling someone fatty or bigears.
In african-american culture, the 'n' word is used amongst themselves, often as a term of endearment. Is it ok for black people to use that word but not white people? If so, that in itself is a form of racial discrimination.

And no, I don't do children's parties so your mum will have to take you to Mcdonalds again.

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One incident occurs and everybody tries to be a philosopher. Racism is wrong and football is fun. Lets end it at that.

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So you are ok racial abuse but not racial discrimination?


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Don't aim that 'philosopher' comment at me. I was just replying to a request from some halfwit who wanted mt to explain what racial discrimination was. Thank you.

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Have I said that? No. I'm saying that I have no more sympathy for him being called n1gger than I would if he was called ugly or a midget. It's just a name and he's playing the race card to make it seem much worse than it is (or in his case, probably isn't!)

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Ok but the thing is, it was not racial discrimination. It was racial abuse which is just as bad.

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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
Have I said that? No. I'm saying that I have no more sympathy for him being called n1gger than I would if he was called ugly or a midget. It's just a name and he's playing the race card to make it seem much worse than it is (or in his case, probably isn't!)


There is a difference in being ugly or whatever, skin color is a discontinuous trait it has a specific category, unlike unattractiveness or being ginger, because people of all race can be either unattractive or giner.

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I'm sure being called an ugly b@stard hurts just as much as being called a black b@stard. If anything, being called ugly is worse as it is subjective and personal whereas calling someone black is merely pointing out a fact. If I were to call Evra a shortass, ugly, smelly, black b@stard you can be sure that only the 'black' element would be focussed on even though in that context it is actually the least offensive word directed at him. Face it, people like to throw the 'racism' card around as it's currently a hot topic and deemed by some as the worst accusation you can aim at someone.
Evra is full of crap and trivialising real race issues...again. If I was playing football and getting £100k a week would I be crying if someone called me a honky a couple of times??? No, because I'm an adult who doesn;t like to cause un-necesarry trouble.

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