KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum Seems like Stewart Downing is escaping the wrath

lennons final ball is terrible, theres no way city would sell johnson to us apart from the fact he s in there plans we are 1 of there rivals plus the fact they dont need the money, downing was voted player of the year last year at villa. so every point you just made was either wrong or lies, keep up the entertainment jim your always good for a laugh.

Downing has made a steady start for me, always goes forward, crosses the ball well, and not afraid to have a poke at goal when he's in range. Henderson hasn't got the confidence yet that maybe Downing has, he has fluffed a couple of sitters which havn't helped his cause and have cost us. Plus some of his vision and link up play has been a bit amature at best. As for Andy Caroll, I work with a geordie and he was over the moon when we paid that fooking ridicoulus price for him. I thought he was mad at the time!...... until now!!!!!!!. Too finish on a Positive, Enrique looks a tidy player, confident on the ball and can get forward when the oporunity comes his way.

Carroll looks like a young player at a big club who has just transfered for a hell of a lotta money .

The same thing happened Ferdinand at Utd & more eerily the same thing happened Vieri who Carroll is a clone of when he joined Juventus as a young player .

Carroll is an outstanding young player as his 17 Premiership Goals from 54 games before he joined us proves .

He needs to settle into the City , he needs to settle into the club , he needs to settle into his status & he needs to settle into the starting 11 .

I'd like to see him hit form before the end of the season but if he doesn’t catch fire until next season I'll be happy enough , Kenny brought in the very experienced Bellamy to take th heat of him & Kuyt is handy up front too .

No panic .

Henderson is a Kid at a big club too , he is settling in very well & I have been impressed by his maturity on the field , he is playing within himself & not over complicating things by trying too hard like the highly experienced Joe Cole & Jovanovich did .

In two seasons Henderson will be up there among the best in Europe , maybe even by the end of this season if Gerrard stays fit & takes the heat off him .

The boy has just turned 21 , has left his home town & came here to one of the biggest clubs on the planet .

If he was foreign you would have flopped out your motherly bosom for him to suckle on but because he is English you think he is a robot .

Henderson has been no worse than Lucas or Kuyt who have been here years & he hasnt even played 10 games for us yet .

At least try to hold back your petty ignorant prejudice until he has at least 30 games for us under his belt .

downing has been ok and thats it no more he is a 20 million pound player he needs to do more .

Who are you calling Ignorant Knob'ed?!! It's an opinion that's all!!

Which City are you saying we rival because the City I am talking about is Manchester City, I think when you talk about a City rival you must be talking about Stoke because thats the City team we are closest to. I cant see Johnsom playing many games for Manchester City because they have David Silva, Johnson plays as a substitute impact player at most and I cant see him being happy with that especialy with England and the Euro's coming up, maybe January transfer window might be a good time to test the water especialy if he's still being used as an impact player from the bench, maybe sell Downing to Fulham to replace Duff.

overspent on an english dud, 2 english duds if you count henderson, i dont get paying all this money just cause there english its not as if the english national team are any good. we could have got mata for the same price as henderson but just cause hes english we fork out o fortune on him. when was the last time england won anything 40, 50 years? a few young germans is what we should have bought maybe schwiestieger and marin proper winners them germans they have the right mentality to win, unlike england.

I didnt call anyone any such thing .

I happen to agree with you about that, I reckon we would of benefited more with a few Jerries in the team, I also think the Dortmund manager would of beena much better appointment than the dud we have now too.

Henderson was 20 with 90 Premiership games under his belt & 2 player of the season awards at his club , he was hardly a dud .

Carroll was 21 with 53 Premiership games & 17 Premiership goals , hardly a dud .

But seeing as we had just come outa the relegation zone & had made our worst start to a season in 50 years you think we should have spent £35 million on some foreigner who had never so much as set foot in England let alone played football in the Premier League , let alone under the pressure we were under ?

Some might call you an idiot .

As for Henderson ,

Well we had just finished our second underwhelming season in a row , we have had a majority of Foreigners in our squad since at least 06 & we had won nothing since then & had been on a dramatic slide since 09 , the players we had already caused a Champions league , La Liga , Uefa Cup & FA Cup winning manager to get sacked & they managed to get the unspectacular but competent Hodgson the sack & your solution to that was to add even more gutless mercenary foreigners who care neither about he club nor its fans ?

Thank f*ck for Kenny Dalglish in that case .

Kenny has added a bedrock of proven domestic players to which the Foreigners are going to be mixed & matched with .

Downing has over 300 games in the Premier League & over 30 goals but you think we should have spent on Mata who has done wat ?

Played a decent 15 minutes for Chelski ?

Kenny didnt spend money on those players because they were English he spent on a proven performing product that is going to hit the ground running & allow us to progress from last seasons dismal finish .

Like he said himself , they spent responsibly .

With the players he has added we are now strong enough to replace the proven failures of previous regimes without shooting ourselves in the foot .

I'm personally excited to see Kenny bring in some big names even from abroad because we have the squad space & strength to carry them if they need time to settle , no need to throw them to the dogs in desperation because we have bought proven consistent Premier League performers who we can rely upon to keep us outa the relegation zone unlike the shower of sh*te Kenny inherited .

They are all either under 25 , are in their prime or are hungry to prove thier worth .

We need to add 6 senior players to that squad & then start replacing those already within it who prove themselves not up to the challenge of genuinely competing for a starting place .

Make no mistake about it , Kenny Dalglish is the very best manager in that League & for my money he is the very best in Europe , at least in so much there isnt a manager in Europe capable of leading us back to the promised land in the way he can .

Kenny is a winner , he knows how to build League winning sides , he is the only man alive to have done it for two different clubs in England .

There isnt a player on the planet bigger than him , he lifted 3 European cups as a player & I cant imagine a genuine ambitious top class player who wouldnt love to play for him in a financially competitive Liverpool Football Club .

Yes we had a lotta players at the club who should never had been there but we need a big squad & we need a big squad deep in genuine quality & it will take a big manager to keep that squad happy .

I cant see past Dalglish .

Every move he has made so far has been rock solid & exactly what we needed at that time .

Its no surprise to me .

He is Liverpool Football Club & Liverpool Football Club is him , together they are us & we are them .

I dont wanna jinx him but for me , when we have a full squad its only a matter of time before it turns our way .

We are weathering a storm right now , nothing is going for us , we are hitting the woodwork more often than they are going in , but for players like Downing , Henderson & Adam its going to click for them all of a sudden & then its going to be an avalanche .

They are too good a players & too strong in character for the Footballing Gods at Anfield not to take them under their care .

Carroll is still unsettled & adjusting to life not being a big fish in a small pond but when he knuckles down & accepts his role at the club he is going to be one hell of a player , one hell of a player in Christian Vieri proportions .

We need more squad players right now and if we get them in January then we could make a strong push for the top 4 & perhaps even a cup final .