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Top teams play their players based on form and at the moment the partnership that is on form does not include Carroll. He will be a great player in the future I hope but we should never risk points by playing a player and hoping he is going to snap out and score a few goals. Playing Suarez, Kuyt and Rodriguez together seems to work great for both Suarez and the team.


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Originally Posted By: Jim Tonez
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The biggest concern for me is the signing of carroll and henderson. No matter how average/bad they are, they cost over £50m and kenny will be under enormous pressure to play them as much as possible to justify his spending. Without any shadow of a doubt, we have much better options than those 2 but their inclusion is detrimental to the quality and style of football that we play. We need gerrard back asap playing behind suarez with kuyt out far wide on the right. kenny doesn't seem too keen to play kuyt though.....


I agree - especially with regards to Henderson

I thought it was a sh*t signing at the time and its good to see the people arguing with me then now coming round to my way of thinking

He's a sh*t signing because he's simply not that good - and what grates isn't only that he cost £20m but that apart from against Bolton he's struggled in every game and yet starts ahead of the likes off Kuyt, Bellamy and Rodriguez - all of whom are much better - and that we got rid of Miereles too - a far superior plasyer despite what the blind-faith brigade say

Again it's another suggestion that Kenny isn't a great judge of a player


I don't think it's as simple as saying that kenny 'isn't a great judge of a player'. ALL managers make good and bad signings - sometimes you can sign a very good player and the move just doesn't work out for him for whatever reason (forlan, keane, veron, morientes), but part of that is down the manager choosing players to fill the gaps/roles that he has in mind....which is why he should have total control and a 'director of football' is such a bad idea.
It's no coincidene that clubs who use a 'director of football' often have a high managerial turnover, presumably because they cannot both be on the same wavelength - it's as disastrous as joint managers if you ask me.

What makes a good manager stand out is someone who reacts to bad signings for the good of the club and won't stubbornly play them when it is clear they are having a negative effect on the team. This is where Benitez excelled; like all top managers he made signings that didn't work out but he has clever enough to move them on quickly.

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@ jim : bearsdley barnes houghton aldrigde mcmahon (&alan shearer) disagree

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Originally Posted By: Armitage
@ jim : bearsdley barnes houghton aldrigde mcmahon (&alan shearer) disagree
and what do they know compared to jim

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Move Kuyt up front with Suarez and teach Carroll to play center back with Coates.


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Originally Posted By: CarheeX

What makes a good manager stand out is someone who reacts to bad signings for the good of the club and won't stubbornly play them when it is clear they are having a negative effect on the team. This is where Benitez excelled; like all top managers he made signings that didn't work out but he has clever enough to move them on quickly.


It it wasn't working for the player at Liverpool - Rafa was pretty likely to move them on - in stark contrast to his predecessor who used to insust that the likes of Smicer, Heskey and Traore would come good - even though they spent most of their Anfield carrer proving to the rest of us that this was highly unlikely

One player Rafa did persist with under difficukt circumstances was Lucas - and I guess he can claim the last laugh with regards to that decision

Rafa did get stick for frequently rotating players although I feel now that there's too little rotation, Daglish seems to stick with thew same team ghame in, game out - which should be a worry for someone like Dirk Kuyt and for us bewcause for me the team plays much better when Kuyt is in it - whether up front alongside Suarez or wide on the right

Kuyt; Henderson; Carroll - He might have been the cheapest of the trio, but IMO Kuyt is a MUCH better player than these two at the moment abd leaving him on the bench is bad management - plain & simple - especially to accomodate these two - one of whom isn't fit or in form (but might comne good once he is), whereras the other was a complete waste of money and I simply cannot believe that if Kenny was as great a judge of player as some on here claim why he'd sign him

at the time I thought it was Comoli's work but Kenny's tram selection since he's signed has convinced he must have been Kenny's signing all along

Again as with Lucas and Kuyt - himself during his unhappy second season - the ball is in the player's court to make people like me eat my words, but my ferar is that if Kennt keeps playing him players like Kuyt will conclude that theor future lies elsewhere


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Originally Posted By: Armitage
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As good as the aforementioned were as players - Barnes in particular was brilliant - these guys are hardly experts when it comes to jiudging players - as their largely atrocious managerial careers testify

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cough** moron ** cough

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cough** moron ** cough


Why does stating the obvious make me a moron

If anyone's a moron it's you for citing such bad examples

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Move Kuyt up front with Suarez and teach Carroll to play center back with Coates.
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