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I do agree with that! its a fine line for carroll now,i think we will have to tie carrol to the goal posts if we do play him as thats where hell best do well,he runs around too much he hasnt the pace so he must get to those posts when the balls put in and stay there,however, id use kuyt first,hes important to suarez and he works like a horse.

i know people always say no one should get into the team based on price tag, reputation, etc. but i think carroll should start because of his price tag, kenny brought him and now he needs to back him by playing him, how is carroll going to do anything to justify his price tag while sitting on the bench? now i know some people think he cant justify his price tag because he isn't good enough. but i think he could be and imo carroll and suarez should start up front together for at least 5/6 games in a row, otherwise how are they gonna form a partnership?

The biggest concern for me is the signing of carroll and henderson. No matter how average/bad they are, they cost over £50m and kenny will be under enormous pressure to play them as much as possible to justify his spending. Without any shadow of a doubt, we have much better options than those 2 but their inclusion is detrimental to the quality and style of football that we play. We need gerrard back asap playing behind suarez with kuyt out far wide on the right. kenny doesn't seem too keen to play kuyt though.....

That is crazy. Surely by now everyone knows that Kuyt and Rodriquez playing around Suarez is the key. The link up between them is phenomenal. We brought Carroll to get a good partnership going with Suarez but it is not working, even Suarez looks frustrated playing alongside Carroll at the moment because he cannot do anything to assist him. Kuyt must and should start. If we keep getting results, and I am sure we will have a much better chance having Kuyt upfront then no one will talk about the prices we paid.

carroll and suarez are (hopefully) the future of the club kuyt and maxi are okay 30 year olds, so why are we building a system around them? we may have to take a short term hit while trying to get the 2 of them to work as a partnership. but its the best thing for the club in the long run.

agree with snake eye - i still dont think carroll deserves donkey tag- but there are others that play better with suarez AT THE MOMENT, and it would have beeen much more sensible to go with what works at this early stage in the season rather than what we all want(ed) to work ie carrol suarez lethal partnership which clearly hasnt as yet. I'd be less worried about henderson and personally i would play him less. The coaching staff arent stupid maybe they have to pursuade kenny to put carroll on the backburner. I think KD is brave enough to change tactics luckily for us.

Understandable but again, if you are given an option here play this failed partnership and lose or get draws every other game or play those 3-4 players that are lethal when they link up together. Age is not a factor with Kuyt and Rodriguez, at least not yet. Kuyt can play at least until he is 35, he has a stamina of an 18 year old.

But why shoot yiurself in the foot

All the evidence - both last season and this - points to the fact that Suarez shines whenever partnered with Kuyt, and as he's our liveliest player at the moment and the one most likely to make things happen, we have to recognise that

More importantly than that the team seems to play better when workhorse Kuyt is in the team. Look how well we played against Bolton - where Carroll was conspicuous by his absence

A solution might be to revert Kuyt to the right wing but Daglish clearly thinks Henderson is our most important plater so hew won't be dropped to make way for Dirk

Playing someone because they cost a lot of money and not because the team will play better is bad management

I agree - especially with regards to Henderson

I thought it was a sh*t signing at the time and its good to see the people arguing with me then now coming round to my way of thinking

He's a sh*t signing because he's simply not that good - and what grates isn't only that he cost £20m but that apart from against Bolton he's struggled in every game and yet starts ahead of the likes off Kuyt, Bellamy and Rodriguez - all of whom are much better - and that we got rid of Miereles too - a far superior plasyer despite what the blind-faith brigade say

Again it's another suggestion that Kenny isn't a great judge of a player

i know some people think that carroll will never be good enough, so im not really aiming this post at them.

how many games have carroll and suarez played together? if someone actually knows the number please tell me. im guessing less than 10. you lot need to stop thinking about the next few games so much i know they are important. but what is more important is the season on a whole, and theres no point whatsoever in swapping and changes systems and partnerships every week like we seem to be doing now. like it or not carroll is here to stay and we have to find a way for our new 60m strike force to work and we can't do that while leaving 1 of them on the bench. we have to just let them play together for a run of games let them get to know each other. if i was kenny i would start carroll and suarez in the next 10 PL games. its also not good for our midfield who in the main are still trying to get to know each other, them having different positions in different formations with different players not good at all. kenny needs to stick his neck on the line and say this is my starting line-up and play that team a few times and let them develop.