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Don't agree with this thread at all. Why can't we just have patience, Kenny is building a team for the long-term future. Instant success is never likely but I can't believe this thread is about getting rid of Daglish so early in the season. Keep the faith. Not sure anyone (even Jimmy) is saying get rid of Dalglish now we have to give him a run. I think the gist of the thread is do we have the right man they way things are shaping up and the signings Henderson / Carroll etc e.g have we got good value for our investment?
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Aldo does he has to be achieving anything its a forum where people give opinions. Its not just him either I am not happy with the way the clubs going nor are many others. For me though I don't blame Kenny he is what he is a decent (but not great manager) the real villians are the owners past and present. thats fine stanly everyone has the right to voice there concerns, but this guy and jimmycase bring the same debate up in every thread, it does nt matter what the other thread is about they turn it back into this. why is my question? Thats because the same problems are there in every thread, stupid, mindless, blind faith in Dalglish fans who need to be told, today should tell people he's not the right man. Who said anything about blind faith? Dalglish loses two away games in a row and suddenly he's not fit for the job, despite showing that he's a capable enough manager by taking us from 12th to 6th in 18 games last season, making up a deficit of 11 points in the process and being outscored for the period only by the teams that finished 1st and 2nd. 5 games is far too soon to judge a man in charge of a club only 2 points out of 4th. If we're say 19th after 7 games, perhaps he's not the right guy, but that's not where we are, is it? At least wait until the table begins to spread out a bit - maybe Christmas-ish.
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I just read the first thread and assumed it was another Dalglish out thread. I sincerely believe that all our players that Dalglish has signed will turn out to be valuable assets for the future. They are all young and Kenny signed them for the long-term. Yes Liverpool is a huge club and it hurts not winning anything when United are cleaning up but this is where we have to be the 12th man on the pitch and stay behind the team. We will come good eventually
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Don't agree with this thread at all. Why can't we just have patience, Kenny is building a team for the long-term future. Instant success is never likely but I can't believe this thread is about getting rid of Daglish so early in the season. Keep the faith. Not sure anyone (even Jimmy) is saying get rid of Dalglish now we have to give him a run. I think the gist of the thread is do we have the right man they way things are shaping up and the signings Henderson / Carroll etc e.g have we got good value for our investment? exactly right the hype that has surrounded dalglish has been a bit unhealthy i think , just going on the end of last season were they did better but that it better , there a saying from an old liverpool radio city tape fro m years ago the quotes is not only does he deserves the bouquets when it went bad he deserved the brickbats and that no different now , if they play well the bouquets but like today the brickbats .
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and calling people on here stupid and mindless is going to tell them is it? i ll ask you the same question brains. whats your solution to all you criticisms? ive been here 2 hours tryin to get this question answered by faz with no success. I dont know what to do with this present situation, Dalglish has full control of everything, has been given enough money to buy every single one of his targets nearly apart from maybe Young and Phil Jones, he has a card which means when we get beat or have a bad result the fans will ignore it or make excuses for him, he has very understanding and supportive bosses, best facilities, allowed to bring in his own men to help him, paid an obscene amount of money, allowed to get shut of any player he does'nt like so I really dont know what the solution is if he cant get a better return from the start of the season from games apart from Spurs look all winnable given the team we have and the money we have spent. Theres Everton have'nt spent a sausage compared to us and are already ahead of us in the table with a chance to go three points clear if they win there game in hand, even the most biased fan can see something is wrong with Dalglish's managerial abilities for this to be the case, how can that be defended. so you think kenny should be sacked is that what your saying? I dont think he should of be given the job in the first place reasons being we needed a young manager with new, fresh ideas and a gameplan also someone who is young enough to still be at the Club when that Plan of Action hopefuly bares fruit which could take up to 10 years or more. I dont know if sacking him now will do much good besides unsettling the Club but having said that if they go out to Brighton this week then get bad results against Everton and United you will probably see fans not so convinced by Dalglish and in turn start putting pressure on him and turning on him.
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Kuyt is very effective up front AND right wing and gives more than adequate cover for both positions. He should have come on for carroll when adam got sent off and moved to right midfield giving us a bit of width and support for suarez.For some reason though kenny doesn't seem to rate kuyt and is putting faith in henderson/carroll. I can't blame him for playing HIS signings but they look like they are going to play a large part in his downfall as they simply aren't good enough.
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I can't blame him for playing HIS signings but they look like they are going to play a large part in his downfall as they simply aren't good enough. Not right now, perhaps. Time will tell. I really don't get the Henderson hate - he's 20, for goodness sake, tasked with being our primary playmaker from RM which is not his natural position. Certainly there could have been a case for Kuyt today if only to look after Bale, but let's face it: Spurs were good value for their win, while we had an injury to our best CB in the run-up to the first goal, and finished the game with 9 men. Reina could have done better for the last two goals as well. And yet all I can see here are threads saying "Dalglish OUT" and commenting how bad Henderson is. Wtf? Did those people actually watch the game, or did they see the scoreline and start inventing arguments?
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jimmycase8 is either aanc or a bluenose, he needs to be edited big time
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Thank God John Henry is a savvy and wiley sports team operator that knows how long rebuilding takes - and not like the neanderthall Knee-jerks on this thread.
Yes, it was a terrible day. We started poorly - got ourselves in a mess and couldn't get out of it. It was 1-0 for a long time and on another day we might have kept players on the pitch and recovered.
Andy Carroll was one of our few players trying to put himself about today - I don't get why he's still public enemy number one. Suarez and Carroll were completely cut off because our midfield was so poor. I'm not sure Kuyt's headless chicken routine would have made up the difference either.
KK is sticking by his new signings for better or for worse - and I don't see that changing. He thinks Henderson, Adam, and Downing will get it together - and I think we can give him more than 5 games. Skrtel at right back was always asking for trouble - with him being suspended KK will have to go with a different option.
Everyone but the scum has got a pasting this season. Chelsea got spanked today despite controlling large parts of their game with the mancs. I don't see a reason to panic - although seeing ManUre run away with the league is a bit depressing. But some people on here talk as if they've never been around the game. In a months time (let alone six) the league table will look a whole lot different.
People need to stop overreacting. With 11 men it would have been 1-0 or perhaps even a draw. I think your clutching at straws a bit there saying if we had 11 men it would be a draw or 1-0, Spurs were far better in all departments before and after the sendings off, if we had 11 men it could easily of been 3 or 4 before half time because it's alot easier scoring against 11 than when a team shuts up shop with all 10 men behind the ball which is what we effectively done up to half time
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Noticed at the game the travelling Liverpool fans were chanting Dalglish when it was clear we were down and out at 3 nil down. This goes to show what a massive stock he has with the rank and file LFC fans especially those who go to the games. This could be a good or bad thing really it’s hard to judge. I always thought John Henry took a massive gamble appointing Dalglish not because of ability but because of Dalglish legend status. One thing is for sure he is bigger than John Henry and John if he ever needs to sack him will be in a very difficult spot. Should Dalglish be the wrong man he could well bring the club down and that is likely to happen before Henry acts because of the difficulty above. And remember standing still in this game is going backwards so the pressure is on.
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