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That's right, Kenny sucks, Carra sucks, Gerrard will never be where he was, we'll never win anything, and we'll be relegated this year.

I can't believe how quickly people have been turning on tried and true Liverpool legends. Last season Kenny Dalglish saved this club. Now after losing two games you want him sacked? That is not the Liverpool way.

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Fed up and frustrated with what exactly? Away losses to Stoke and Spurs? When last did we take points off either of these teams on their turf? Misplaced pessimism is the greater poison here.
wrong misplace optimissium is the poison


How so? Reminding Carroll that he cost 35m with every sentence you speak is going to help him find his groove, is it? Papering over the cracks is one thing, but undermining the club you claim to support is quite another.


If you pay £35m for a striker he should be world class finished article not having his mind massaged to even produce a quarter decent performance. Unless of course you spent £35m on a £8m stiker if so the fans and the club board have a right to ask questions.


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We expect title challenges because we love our team and hope for the best. Ok if the results dont show us as title challengers, however at the beginning of the season everybody raises their ambitions for the club 1-2 positions greater, because we love our team.

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The point is Thundyr we are fed up and frustrated I could not give a damn what they promised or not. Its just we are not progressing promises, hope, dreams a plenty but it seems no progression. Yes its early days and I still have faith in Henry / Dalglish for what else is there to do? But we have brains in our heads and no misplaced optimism can fool what we can all see.


Fed up and frustrated with what exactly? Away losses to Stoke and Spurs? When last did we take points off either of these teams on their turf? Misplaced pessimism is the greater poison here.


Well lets hope you are right. Re not taking points there should be nowhere that is out of bounds for be taking points if we are serious about progressing beyond 6th, 7th or 8th spot.


It's never good losing to your rivals, but I'd rather win at home and lose away than draw both. Obviously we need to pick up as many points as we can on the road, and where better than our rivals like Spurs, but the sky didn't just fall on our heads because we failed to do that. We need to win 22-24 games this season in order to push for top 4, we don't need to win 38. Today we needed to show we could play, but we didn't turn up and we played with 10 men for 70 minutes. Move on, concentrate on the next one.

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Originally Posted By: redordead13
That's right, Kenny sucks, Carra sucks, Gerrard will never be where he was, we'll never win anything, and we'll be relegated this year.

I can't believe how quickly people have been turning on tried and true Liverpool legends. Last season Kenny Dalglish saved this club. Now after losing two games you want him sacked? That is not the Liverpool way.


I think saving the club is stretching things ! saved us from what ? We did not qualify for the champions league or Europa as far as I can see he steadied the ship. Any half decent manager could have done that.


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Originally Posted By: redordead13
That's right, Kenny sucks, Carra sucks, Gerrard will never be where he was, we'll never win anything, and we'll be relegated this year.

I can't believe how quickly people have been turning on tried and true Liverpool legends. Last season Kenny Dalglish saved this club. Now after losing two games you want him sacked? That is not the Liverpool way.
roy hodgson got turned on quick enough and this is no better and the club didnt spend 125 million on players , jordan henderson 20 million ?

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man utd 3-0 up liverpool light years behind them .


So are Chelsea and Arsenal and oh look Spurs lost by 3 there as well. But you know - all those United wins are at home. We lost two games at venues where we struggle, and are rebuilding (lest we forget, because you all clearly have). Therefore we must sack the manager (the purpose of this thread)?

And try to remember that we're not competing with United this season.
dont start that at start of the season the majotity were expecting a title challenge , not me i thought and said this would be like this good at home ordinary away likely 4th 5th or 6th likely 5th or 6th , so changing the goalposts just because it gone bad is wrong , on here there post were just a strong as man utd .


Well, you're the one bringing it up, how badly we compare with United. I expect a top 4 challenge at worst, a deep cup run somewhere - we have the squad for that. Perhaps the people who thought we were world beaters when we've never shown that we are have just had some bubbles burst. No need to feed the flames though.

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Originally Posted By: aldo
We expect title challenges because we love our team and hope for the best. Ok if the results dont show us as title challengers, however at the beginning of the season everybody raises their ambitions for the club 1-2 positions greater, because we love our team.


We all love the team mate but we need to face issues if we want to improve. Reality is reality dreams are what you do when you are asleep.


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Fed up and frustrated with what exactly? Away losses to Stoke and Spurs? When last did we take points off either of these teams on their turf? Misplaced pessimism is the greater poison here.
wrong misplace optimissium is the poison


How so? Reminding Carroll that he cost 35m with every sentence you speak is going to help him find his groove, is it? Papering over the cracks is one thing, but undermining the club you claim to support is quite another.


If you pay £35m for a striker he should be world class finished article not having his mind massaged to even produce a quarter decent performance. Unless of course you spent £35m on a £8m stiker if so the fans and the club board have a right to ask questions.


although I disagree with this absurd pessimism, I have to agree with the Caroll situation. If we are going to pay 35m pounds for a striker who does not produce we have the right to argue. Those same fans that protect the price of Andy Caroll attack and laugh at Torres for not producing in accordance to his price tag.

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Just seen Kenny's post match comments on LFCTV.

At least he accepts we were poor and not blaming ref something at least.


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