KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum Is Carragher past it?

I dont know Gerrard, Rooney or Carrgher on a personal level. All i see is them week in week out on the pitch. And from what i have seen, they have all been brilliant in some manner or form.

What they do off the field, quite frankly, is none of my concern.

gerrard's worst fault is his diving though imo ..... it really drives me up the wall when a player dives ..... i detest it

But recently, there had been a few instances when he could have fallen over in the penalty, but he didn't. Take the goal he set up for Kuyt and Benny in the Penalty area in recent games. He was tackled, but kept his feet to produce the killer pass for his teammates to tap-in!

Shows another side of Stevie G, doesn't it?

not really - it shows what he should have been doing all along is all

Is right actually, but we were just talking about the perceived characters that appear to have in our opinions.
I too couldn't really give a jot about any of them off the field.
Just gets on my tits the way some worship Gerrard..in particular...as though he's some sort of god, and as for him being a hero!!!! Give me strength.

i do take your point on that one emp - no one can dispute that he has scored some fantastic last minute blasts from long range which have won important games ...... the only problem is i often wonder if we would need him to do that if he learned how to be more of a team player ....... sometimes we do look a better side without him ...... i have often wondered if he hadn't had 30 shots in a game that needed him to score a last minute winner in, and instead he had passed the ball on to someone in a better position or just kept possession by passing or holding onto the ball, would we have conceded the goals we did? and would we have needed him to score those screamers?

we are in no way a better team without stevie g.

i think you make a fantastic point there emp - but then a truly great player would raise the game of all those around him .... i find gerrard tends to just try and do it all himself instead of that ..... but then maybe that is more a case of him knowing the players he is playing with are just not good enough!

he is my gem:) he is a king:)

he has been compensation for a lot of sub standard players over the years. you can see how happy he is to have torres in front of him instead of cisse, diouf or any of those other crocks of sh1t we've had as 'strikers' before. so exactly, he has had to do the job of centre mid, play in the hole and be a striker all at once. i think that as he gets older he needs to work less and work out he he needs to do and recognise that he can't do all of those things. that if he's going to play for years into the future, that slowing down is no bad thing. great leaders don't do all the work, they orchestrate others to do it with them