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hey thundyr were you been? i thought you had left us

on paulson, has he left or what?

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wow thundyr, great memory or did you have that saved somewhere to give you some pleasure after reading haha laugh


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T'was in my recall, incredibly. I'm just as surprised as you are, mate! I also remember how he invited me to a pub near Anfield so we could discuss our points of view outside. Ah, the memories! smile

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Originally Posted By: *** Suso ***
hey thundyr were you been? i thought you had left us


Only temporary, Suso. Moving countries atm. Will be in full swing once I'm settled back in my country in the next a few weeks or so (assuming I can get a high-speed internet line without waiting forever for it to be installed).

I'm a bit more regular with updating my football blog right now, as I can't get hours and hours on this computer (sharing with the missus, which means I can use it when she says so - lol).

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hey thundyr were you been? i thought you had left us


Only temporary, Suso. Moving countries atm. Will be in full swing once I'm settled back in my country in the next a few weeks or so (assuming I can get a high-speed internet line without waiting forever for it to be installed).

I'm a bit more regular with updating my football blog right now, as I can't get hours and hours on this computer (sharing with the missus, which means I can use it when she says so - lol).
so your moving back to SA then. good luck with that.

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Yeah, not sure whether the security situation has improved or not, and that fool Julius Malema is still mouthing off without his political party restraining him, but hopefully we'll be able to settle in again and live normal lives as we do here. Obviously the watchword is to be careful, but the country has so much to offer if only we'd stop fighting one another. 17 years after the release of Mandela, and his party still can't supply basic services to their voters, who still blame the previous regime for the state they're in. I said a decade ago that it would take an entire generation to heal the country, and so far I'm sad to say that I'm being proven correct.

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Yeah, not sure whether the security situation has improved or not, and that fool Julius Malema is still mouthing off without his political party restraining him, but hopefully we'll be able to settle in again and live normal lives as we do here. Obviously the watchword is to be careful, but the country has so much to offer if only we'd stop fighting one another. 17 years after the release of Mandela, and his party still can't supply basic services to their voters, who still blame the previous regime for the state they're in. I said a decade ago that it would take an entire generation to heal the country, and so far I'm sad to say that I'm being proven correct.
dont really no about abt SA. havent really taken much notice. i always thought it was a better country to live in as in africa). am guessing ur a white South African. my friends from Zimbabwe so i no alittle more about that. am guessing similar kind of thing

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Similar in some ways to Zim, though at least in SA the threat of land grabbing by the government did not become a reality. It's one of the things that terrified a lot of people in the 90s, but right now it seems the government (Malema excepted) seems more intent on enriching itself rather than taking things because they suspect they can get away with it. So unfortunately the poor go largely unnoticed outside campaign time, and in all honesty the biggest threat is from criminals who do not fear the law. It's a violent country, unfortunately - if the police had the numbers and the backing I'm sure they could make a difference, but now most neighbourhoods are patrolled by security services instead. I guess it's a way of taking the country back in a way.

I am indeed white, but I grew up in a rural area where my parents and I were the only white faces, so in a way I was shielded from apartheid because I simply never saw race as a distinction; we were all just people working towards the same goal. My friends and work colleagues too have mostly been "of colour" as well, something that is commonplace in society now. So the signs are there that the barriers are breaking down, that Mandela's vision of a "Rainbow Nation" can succeed, but the sad fact remains that the impoverished (still a significant percentage of the population) do not have the education to see that the change in government did not bring the promised change in their fortunes, and the fat cats aren't in any hurry to help them come to that realization. But they will - it will just take a bit more time. Until then we must defend against the criminals who have no compunction about shooting to kill for a man's spare change.

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Similar in some ways to Zim, though at least in SA the threat of land grabbing by the government did not become a reality. It's one of the things that terrified a lot of people in the 90s, but right now it seems the government (Malema excepted) seems more intent on enriching itself rather than taking things because they suspect they can get away with it. So unfortunately the poor go largely unnoticed outside campaign time, and in all honesty the biggest threat is from criminals who do not fear the law. It's a violent country, unfortunately - if the police had the numbers and the backing I'm sure they could make a difference, but now most neighbourhoods are patrolled by security services instead. I guess it's a way of taking the country back in a way.

I am indeed white, but I grew up in a rural area where my parents and I were the only white faces, so in a way I was shielded from apartheid because I simply never saw race as a distinction; we were all just people working towards the same goal. My friends and work colleagues too have mostly been "of colour" as well, something that is commonplace in society now. So the signs are there that the barriers are breaking down, that Mandela's vision of a "Rainbow Nation" can succeed, but the sad fact remains that the impoverished (still a significant percentage of the population) do not have the education to see that the change in government did not bring the promised change in their fortunes, and the fat cats aren't in any hurry to help them come to that realization. But they will - it will just take a bit more time. Until then we must defend against the criminals who have no compunction about shooting to kill for a man's spare change.
well its good news that both white and black pple of SA can live side by side. i come from the indian subcontinent were the poverty is probably worse so i understand yr frustrations. is yr county rich interms of oil, gold etc

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Originally Posted By: *** Suso ***
well its good news that both white and black pple of SA can live side by side. i come from the indian subcontinent were the poverty is probably worse so i understand yr frustrations. is yr county rich interms of oil, gold etc


The signs are very encouraging, but for now there's always someone in power who seems to be pulling in the wrong direction, and that someone always seems to have too much political support.

We have not a drop of oil, sad to say, but I believe we still export gold and precious stones to Europe, as well as corn and wheat into Africa itself. Parts of the country are among the most scenic in the world, so we have a fair travel trade as well, and a great many Britons come just for the sunshine and the beef!

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