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i said it before i ll say it again andy carroll is a donkey..

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Darren_1981...you make a solid point..

and I would also like to retract my earlier comment about sides we should be beating out of sight...Sunderland deserved thier draw and we have no given right to be beating anyone.

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i knew we would draw today. i feel we will be better than last term but to put it simply utd are light years ahead and have got a stronger squad in my opinion again this season. city are mega rich and can throw money at it, and chelsea will always be strong.

this will be a season with similar stories to all the other seasons before, get some great rusults but cock it up agains the lowly sides. not happy with a point today even if it is first game of season. sunderland home should be a banker

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Originally Posted By: stunolan
i said it before i ll say it again andy carroll is a donkey..


Fair play to him when he controlled the ball on his chest and smashed it past the keeper against Sunderland. Just imagine what he could do if he wasnt a " donkey "


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Originally Posted By: LFC2k5
i knew we would draw today. i feel we will be better than last term but to put it simply utd are light years ahead and have got a stronger squad in my opinion again this season. city are mega rich and can throw money at it, and chelsea will always be strong.

this will be a season with similar stories to all the other seasons before, get some great rusults but cock it up agains the lowly sides. not happy with a point today even if it is first game of season. sunderland home should be a banker


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The initial post on this thread was spot on CeeDee. I noticed a distinct change in the views expressed by contributors here about four years ago, many seem preoccupied with making excuses for poor results and being "positive" rather than "negative". I concentrate on the facts.

So if Arsenal, Man City et al drop points also, yesterdays draw at home to Sunderland is fine? No it isn't, we could and should be two/three points ahead of them. Drawing at home to Sunderland in the opening game = poor statement of intent, and hardly implies the team will challenge for the title. A repeat of that performance in the next match and a single point from a possible six is guaranteed. Chelsea and Man United realised several years ago that they must hit the ground running in order to achieve success, and yesterday's debacle (particularly after the largely dreadful pre-season displays) confirms we are a long way behind them.

In summary - after the Arsenal game, our Premiership season will be over 5% complete. We need a major and rapid improvement even to finish fourth.

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If we beat arsenal, then 4 points from these two games isn't that bad. Most would take that. But the problem is at the end of the season I think 2 points is gonna make quite a difference. And yesterday was definitely 2 points dropped. We aren't competing against city Utd and Chelsea, we're competing against arsenal and spurs. And I fear spurs have more than enough in them to win that game.

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I agree next sundays game could be the watershed for our season.


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I don't think 2 games will make or break our season. But it's important to start the season strongly as heads could fall quickly..

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Originally Posted By: bigredkop
I don't think 2 games will make or break our season. But it's important to start the season strongly as heads could fall quickly..


Thats what I meant too


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