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House #143310 02/08/11 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted By: House
gotta agree with jim here, lucas is good but a top quality DM would be a good idea, obviously we'd have to sell poulsen and spearing. but we do have coady who is developing very nicely.


Why do we "obviously" have to sell Spearing? Poulsen, absolutely. But I don't even think we'll sell Spearing, let alone "obviously" sell him.

I agree to a certain degree about the point of the position though, but i'd give Lucas another season as the main man, see if he develops further or not, and if not, well then, i'd just re-sign Alonso next summer after we regain CL football! ( grin )


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gotta agree with jim here, lucas is good but a top quality DM would be a good idea, obviously we'd have to sell poulsen and spearing. but we do have coady who is developing very nicely.


Why do we "obviously" have to sell Spearing? Poulsen, absolutely. But I don't even think we'll sell Spearing, let alone "obviously" sell him.

I agree to a certain degree about the point of the position though, but i'd give Lucas another season as the main man, see if he develops further or not, and if not, well then, i'd just re-sign Alonso next summer after we regain CL football! ( grin )



because i'd rather have a top class DM and lucas than have a top class DM and spearing, lucas is better than spearing ergo sell spearing, we cant have 3 DMs.

this is all moo't because we wont be signing another midfielder this summer, surely?

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gotta agree with jim here, lucas is good but a top quality DM would be a good idea, obviously we'd have to sell poulsen and spearing. but we do have coady who is developing very nicely.


Why do we "obviously" have to sell Spearing? Poulsen, absolutely. But I don't even think we'll sell Spearing, let alone "obviously" sell him.

I agree to a certain degree about the point of the position though, but i'd give Lucas another season as the main man, see if he develops further or not, and if not, well then, i'd just re-sign Alonso next summer after we regain CL football! ( grin )



because i'd rather have a top class DM and lucas than have a top class DM and spearing, lucas is better than spearing ergo sell spearing, we cant have 3 DMs.

this is all moo't because we wont be signing another midfielder this summer, surely?


Lol, "surely" being the operative word. The way it's gone so far, would anyone be truly surprised if we did? :P


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we are playing Valencia, well then Mata might just say Im staying here Gaffa, I cant board that plane.


Mata seems to be on his way to Arsenal from what I understand and read!! Would be good though if he did stay with us.


Nope!

Arsenal got their bid turned down, and we're now out of Valencia's "Buy-Out-Clause" boundaries!

This means it will now cost at least € 30 M or so to sign Mata this window!

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pre-season so far utter rubbish !!!!! and thats being kind


That's true but I remember we looked pretty awful for most of our pre-season games before the 2008-09 campaign and that was our best since the Premier League started

I only caifght the second half last night and their goal at the end was completely against the run of play but the opposition looked like a division 1 side - and conceeding 3 goals against them, Hull, Galatasaray - and let's not forgret those Asian teams - suggests to me we haven;t got a hope of challenging for any si;verware unless that's strengthened

A new left back & centre back shpould be a priority and a out-and-out defensive midfielder wouldn't be a bad idea either

We don't agree on much Jim, but I have to agree with you on the above! Our defense is weak to put it mildly, and we didn't need preseason to tell us that! I would maybe quibble with the DM bit, because of the possibility of Lucas coming good. However if he doesn't then your suggestion comes in to play and we should sell Lucas at Xmas and sign a good DM.

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If we don't get rid of some deadwood soon, I guess there will be a possibility we can hand over quite a bunch of "nice" Christmas Gifts to our opponents in a few months time then! eek grin

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This kind of proves that we were never after him in the first place. We would have bid for him if we were surely!?.
The 'link' only ever existed in the over active minds of journalists and some gullible fans.

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Originally Posted By: Annefield58

We don't agree on much Jim, but I have to agree with you on the above! Our defense is weak to put it mildly, and we didn't need preseason to tell us that! I would maybe quibble with the DM bit, because of the possibility of Lucas coming good. However if he doesn't then your suggestion comes in to play and we should sell Lucas at Xmas and sign a good DM.


Lucas has come good but he needs back up, and the only other defensive midfielder we have is Spearing who played well towards the end of last season but has looked out of sorts pre-season

We need a Sissoko or Mascherano-type of midfielder (ie: destructive) - as Lucas looks a little too lightweight

The other option might be to see Gerrard play there - as did early on in his career

That would curtail his attacking drive but we have a variety of players who can play his attacking-based CM role - Aquilani, Meireles, Adam, even Henderson (who I'm the first to say didn't look too bad last night)

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It's a strange one. At the end of last season, most fans would agree that we were fine for central midfielders but lacking in defence. Quite why we have tackled those 2 positions in the reverse order is beyond the comprehension of most people. We now have way too many central midfielders, no decent defensive options/cover and no money to buy reinforcements; we will have to rely on people buying the dross that we don't want in order to save up for a defender or 2. Bad management is that. At least we've now got a left winger - shame it took about 10 years to get one though. Let's hope the left back problem is solved a little quicker. Might I suggest we have a whip round?

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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
This kind of proves that we were never after him in the first place. We would have bid for him if we were surely!?.
The 'link' only ever existed in the over active minds of journalists and some gullible fans.


I'm quite sure that Liverpool Football Club don't put in bids for every player that they're 'after'.


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