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That's the point I am trying to put over. I have nothing against OOT fans because as I have said before we would not be one of the biggest clubs in the world if it were not for them, my argument is that the main reason the club was formed was for the people of Liverpool and we are at the point were they have been forced out and cannot watch the game but have to go to the pub instead while the stadium is full of people from everywhere. The biggest blame in all this is the Football club it'self over the years they have valued OOT fans over locals because OOT fans will always spend more money. You look at todays game I will turn up in my season ticket seat about 2.55 and I will be away at about 4.50, I wont turn up about 12.00 spend all sorts of money in the souvenir shop, go in the ground and buy Liverpool lager, sausage rolls and pies so am only worth the money i pay for my season ticketto the club whereas an OOT fan will do all the above and thats why the club values OOT fans more than locals because we just wont do that. The Club sends 100s of block bookings for hotel and match tickets to places like Ireland and Scandanavia and now Thomas Cook do the same so instead of local fans being able to but tickets you have to buy a hospitality package from someone like Thomas Cook. A little lad running round the streets of Liverpool, with Gerrard or Torres name on the back of his shirt, plays football everyday in the street, reads the Echo about the club, watches the telly which the club is on and then pleads with his dad to take him the game to watch his heroes on the Saturday how is a father going to be able to take his son to the game when he cant afford package hosptality deals which he has to pay for because all sorts of OOT fans have decided to pick another City's team to support, how is this right or fair. Football is all about local identity Scousers, Geordies. Manks, Cockneys, Brummies we are all proud of where we come from and the clubs represent this. All you people out there who dont think where you come from is important why do you think the Evertonians are all up in arms because of this move to Kirkby, it's because Kirkby is not Liverpool like Bootle or St Helens it lies just outside the boundary of the City but to locals it is a massive difference and it may as well be 100 miles outside, thats the point i am making about local fans and how important where you come from and who you are is to us all, Liverpool people are very proud of where we come from and we try to protect our identity as much as we can because it sets us apart thats why we feel we have to defend ourselves when people class all Liverpool fans the same which we are not.

I feel i have to defend myself against [color:#FF0000]pr1cks like you, i am clearly putting my point across that I am not some KN0b head like you who just comes on forums and talks sh1te. Your right there are loads of fans like me and there are loads of fans who feel exactly the same way with the way the club is. I could just bury my head in the sand and pretend the club is on the verge of greatness like some Kn0b heads like you are doing but i choose to stand up against whats going on and voice my opinion no matter who i upset or how controversial, if you dont like it then tough. [/quote]

Do you really have to resort to personal insults like that? Shows a total lack of intelligence and utter selfishness.
You disgust me, and the sooner we have an 'ignore button' to activate against you and your friend Stuey the better.

[/quote]Listen you. g0bsh1te you have just said i lack intelligence and am selfish so i have just defended myself and will continue to do so. You look at everyone of my posts and everytime i have insulted someone it has been on the back of someone insulting me first in the previous post. If you are going to make such stupid comments be fair about it and have a look at the big picture and see some of the abuse i have had to take as well. if you give it you take it and thats what i accept so get used to it.

[/quote]Listen you. g0bsh1te you have just said i lack intelligence and am selfish so i have just defended myself and will continue to do so. You look at everyone of my posts and everytime i have insulted someone it has been on the back of someone insulting me first in the previous post. If you are going to make such stupid comments be fair about it and have a look at the big picture and see some of the abuse i have had to take as well. if you give it you take it and thats what i accept so get used to it. [/quote]

Whilst I may have critisised and doubted some of your opinions and wisdomfull thoughts...like many others in here, I HAVE NOT RESORTED TO CALLING YOU A KN0B HEAD, G0B SH1TE OR PR1CK, you thouroughly vile obnoxious little man.
You reap what you sow, and the harvest is looking decidely poor for you with your bad intollerant and insultingly childish attitude.

GROW UP, and start being a bit more reasonable in taking critisim like the Emperor does...and worth a million more than you btw...or close the door on your way out after you've collected your hat and coat.

To be fair, the discussions often begin on contraversial points and i think we have all agreed that everyone is entitled to their own opinion. However i would point out ged that you are not quite the innocent victim you make out. It is often yourself that starts the name calling as you have done with Growler. Agreed he stated that you were showing a lack of intelligence by using insults, your response was to call him a name, this somewhat proves his point.

The problem is that when we discuss things and people disagree, that if you respond by calling people names you become the aggressor not the victim. You are of course entitled to defend yourself, however a well reasoned response would be interpreted as more intelligent (no i'm not saying your not intelligent) ratehr than calling everyone who disagrees with you a Knobhead.

do you not agree!

No my opinions is that if someone responds to my commments about football i will talk to them all day and back up what i say no matter how controversial or how much people on here dont like it or refuse to believe. Now if someone on here brings something personal into the consversation other than football as in questioning my intelligence I will respond, I dont believe in responding on the same level I will respond but with more venom than what has been said about me, thats how i work, I think people who go on forums should be given more respect than some on here have shown me. My views might be controversial but you will never hear me say something I cant back up,everyone is entitled to an opinion even if people dont agree and i have nearly every time been name called first. I am a proud local who does'nt like to see what is and has happend to my great football club. Alrite i cant change things but i still dont have to sit in silence and accept what i see and which in my eyes is'nt right, is'nt a forum there to discuss things on.

You mention Heysel, A real Liverpool fan / Local lad, would never have ommitted Hillsborough.

Point proven...... Now go bury your head in the sand. Closet fookin Manc.

you are just being facetious now stuey - a complete pointless and inane point you have made in an attempt to score points ... as per usual for you

just another pathetic attempt to try and prove you are a better fan than the rest of us - well obviously you must have doubts about yourself or you wouldn't be shouting so much about your credentials as a fan

Can tell straight away your no proper Liverpool fan just a w*nker, the reason Hysel was mentioned and not Hillsborough you pr1ck was because Hysel we were directly blamed by everyone if you knew your history or you were old enough to remember both times you will know they were completely different lows for the club, now F8ck off you t0sser and come back when you have grown a set of b0LL0CKS.

So he feels heartache when we are blamed for italian deaths, but forgets when our brothers, cousins and fathers are so cruelly taken from us?

Ged, I am not a Liverpool fan, I AM A TRUE SUPPORTER.

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