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annfield is right, no ones knocking someones right to say they don't like dalglish or that he is no good, it's the repetitive warped threads that serve no purpose other than to pollute sensible debate that most people object to, some of it borders on the limits of justifiable . I am not even sure if they are lfc fans, but then you can't say anything can you otherwise you will be stifling free speech!
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annfield is right, no ones knocking someones right to say they don't like dalglish or that he is no good, it's the repetitive warped threads that serve no purpose other than to pollute sensible debate that most people object to, some of it borders on the limits of justifiable . I am not even sure if they are lfc fans, but then you can't say anything can you otherwise you will be stifling free speech! Free speech has a clue in the name. Many comments you will disagree with and some are just plain dumb and some are mindless. You can ignore them thats the best way if you think the comment is rubbish. Unfortunetly we don't have the definition of sensible debate on the site.
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Just think how boring this site would be if it were sensible. 
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I started this thread and I think alot of the responses have been blown out of proportion, I dont want Dalglish to fail, what I wanted to know is with the money he has spent how long does he get if things dont go as expected. If you remember rightly the same post went out about Roy Hodgson and I suppose it will do again with any future manager. There is alot wrong with alot of these posts on here because as soon as someone says Liverpool wont win the league, finish in the top four or that Dalglish and his signing might not work you are suddenly met with blind faith, rose tinted hysteria which at times becomes personal. Listen your going to get to the stage where people may have something negative to say on here which they may have a valid point about and they will be frightened to post for fear of insults or being called a United fan or Evertonian. I personaly dont think we will finish in the top four, I think the players we have signed are not top four players and most importantly three of them have been vastly overpriced, these are my views and time will tell if I am proved right, I am still entitled to my view on here though.
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I started this thread and I think alot of the responses have been blown out of proportion, I dont want Dalglish to fail, what I wanted to know is with the money he has spent how long does he get if things dont go as expected. If you remember rightly the same post went out about Roy Hodgson and I suppose it will do again with any future manager. There is alot wrong with alot of these posts on here because as soon as someone says Liverpool wont win the league, finish in the top four or that Dalglish and his signing might not work you are suddenly met with blind faith, rose tinted hysteria which at times becomes personal. Listen your going to get to the stage where people may have something negative to say on here which they may have a valid point about and they will be frightened to post for fear of insults or being called a United fan or Evertonian. I personaly dont think we will finish in the top four, I think the players we have signed are not top four players and most importantly three of them have been vastly overpriced, these are my views and time will tell if I am proved right, I am still entitled to my view on here though. It's your constant and repetitive negativity that is objectionable Red NS, Can you not see that it is neither constructive nor supportive to be raising the issue of "how long does he get if things don't go as expected", when Kenny hasn't even begun his first season as our newly appointed Manager? These are the kind of questions one expects to see being raised by our enemies, trying to undermine the confidence of; manager, team and fans alike! Definitely not what one expects from our own fan members! We are at the start of a rebuilding process and it behoves all true fans of LFC to get behind the club and support the efforts being made by owners, manager, coach's, and the squad and not to be constantly pushing negative and unsupportive opinion's. If and when the time comes to hold people to account then I will be at least as critical as yourself, but not before they have been given a chance!
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My two cents (and I know some/a lot of you don't want them cause you perceive them to be 'negative') is that whilst I can see what point, I think it was, the OP is makine regarding should we treat Kenny the same as we did Roy in terms of, if it doesn't start well do we get on his back straight away or are we as fans less subjective as Kenny is our (rightfully so) hero.
Despite the point being perhaps a valid one and interesting to muse on, regardless of who the manager is a thread titled how long do we give him is definitely far too negative (yes I said it). I wasn't thrilled about the Roy appointment but I didn't think if he hasn't done well by X I want the [oops]!r out. We can't think like that about anyone as it immediate undermines what work the club is trying to do. Incidentally, football is not objective, yes Kenny would get more understanding because he is a Liverpool hero, nothing wrong with that.
I do want to point out that those who have attacked the OP and lumped in those who consider themselves as being 'realistic' are being lazy as those who are being realistic about what can be achieved next season do not therefore condone a thread title such as this.
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My two cents (and I know some/a lot of you don't want them cause you perceive them to be 'negative') is that whilst I can see what point, I think it was, the OP is makine regarding should we treat Kenny the same as we did Roy in terms of, if it doesn't start well do we get on his back straight away or are we as fans less subjective as Kenny is our (rightfully so) hero.
Despite the point being perhaps a valid one and interesting to muse on, regardless of who the manager is a thread titled how long do we give him is definitely far too negative (yes I said it). I wasn't thrilled about the Roy appointment but I didn't think if he hasn't done well by X I want the [oops]!r out. We can't think like that about anyone as it immediate undermines what work the club is trying to do. Incidentally, football is not objective, yes Kenny would get more understanding because he is a Liverpool hero, nothing wrong with that.
I do want to point out that those who have attacked the OP and lumped in those who consider themselves as being 'realistic' are being lazy as those who are being realistic about what can be achieved next season do not therefore condone a thread title such as this. I am sorry but my english is not up to that. I don't follow.
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I started this thread and I think alot of the responses have been blown out of proportion, I dont want Dalglish to fail, what I wanted to know is with the money he has spent how long does he get if things dont go as expected. If you remember rightly the same post went out about Roy Hodgson and I suppose it will do again with any future manager. There is alot wrong with alot of these posts on here because as soon as someone says Liverpool wont win the league, finish in the top four or that Dalglish and his signing might not work you are suddenly met with blind faith, rose tinted hysteria which at times becomes personal. Listen your going to get to the stage where people may have something negative to say on here which they may have a valid point about and they will be frightened to post for fear of insults or being called a United fan or Evertonian. I personaly dont think we will finish in the top four, I think the players we have signed are not top four players and most importantly three of them have been vastly overpriced, these are my views and time will tell if I am proved right, I am still entitled to my view on here though. It's your constant and repetitive negativity that is objectionable Red NS, Can you not see that it is neither constructive nor supportive to be raising the issue of "how long does he get if things don't go as expected", when Kenny hasn't even begun his first season as our newly appointed Manager? These are the kind of questions one expects to see being raised by our enemies, trying to undermine the confidence of; manager, team and fans alike! Definitely not what one expects from our own fan members! We are at the start of a rebuilding process and it behoves all true fans of LFC to get behind the club and support the efforts being made by owners, manager, coach's, and the squad and not to be constantly pushing negative and unsupportive opinion's. If and when the time comes to hold people to account then I will be at least as critical as yourself, but not before they have been given a chance! Fine words I must say just one question where was this post at the start of last season when Roy Hodgson was manager, where was all this " We are Liverpool fans and should support and get behind the manager, Club and players " when fans were singing for Dalglish during the Manchester City game two games in and yes I did say two games in. This is my whole point about fans pick and choose when they want to support, there was none of this at the start of last season yet because it's Dalglish it's blind, blinkered, love and I personaly think this type of support can harm, damage and hold back a football Club.
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thats the point spot on , its ok to want roy hodgson out before a ball is kicked by loads , but if dalglish gets it wrong its ok because he done well 20 years ago and scored against bruges so he is immune from any sort of crtisim , now i dont think once anyone has said dalglish will fail , i think the gist of most post people think are negative is its not going to happen over night like most on here thinks it will , i think every manager deserves a chance who ever they are sadly roy never got a chance and nobody knew how the season would pan out with all the other problems trhat wre surrounding the club up to christmas 2010 , ok dalglish done a very good job stablising things had a great run , but its now the work must begin and if the team dont perform then question must be asked as they were for hodgson or any other manager would , but sentiment is a wrong thing managers and players need to perform and not be given walk overs because of past glories .
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really boring arguement , you are not by any chance a communist? Because hardly anyone wanted hodgosn out before a ball was kicked that is just b s mate , and those that wanted kenny but gave him a chance were proven right in the end cos after his own ' give me 10 games to judge me' statement (remember after 10 games we were cack??) I wanted him out after about 5 premier league games , and i never wanted dalglish back except after hodgson had to go mid season and the only alternative was Frank feck RIKYARRD!
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