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i like rafa and still do although im glad hes not our manager anymore. poor signings and tactics. his last season was one of the worst i watched as a fan of 20 years. The one thing that really annoyed me was the fact he never stuck to his best 11 and always changed the team ay to much.

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Originally Posted By: LFC2k5
i like rafa and still do although im glad hes not our manager anymore. poor signings and tactics. his last season was one of the worst i watched as a fan of 20 years. The one thing that really annoyed me was the fact he never stuck to his best 11 and always changed the team ay to much.


I think that's about right, although i'd argue we were actually worst during houllier first and last season at liverpool and probably throughout Souness' reign

also winning the cl disguided how badly we performed in the league during rafa's first season

Rafa and Houllier made good and bad signings in almost equal amount but both ended theor Amnfield careers with squads not much better than the ones they immediately inherited on taking over

Also Rafa's rotation seemingly had nothing to do with form. Crouch for example was the first name on the teamsheet up until he scored his first goal! And so too Robbie Keane...

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Does anybody care what the fat Controller would have done??

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No need for that sillisausage.


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Originally Posted By: Sillisoula
Does anybody care what the fat Controller would have done??
who you talking about? if yr talking abt rafa have some respect for the man that got us number 5 and made us a force again. if you cant have a bit of respect for someone like that then you are just a c***

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Originally Posted By: *** Suso ***
who you talking about? if yr talking abt rafa have some respect for the man that got us number 5 and made us a force again. if you cant have a bit of respect for someone like that then you are just a c***


A bit harsh but I can't understand the outright hostility towards Rafa from some posters on here.

He got us into champions league every season he was at the club (excpt for the last one of course) and made us one of the big English European clubs again - something which didn't look remotely possible under Souness, Evans and even Houllier.

Also, for all the duds he signed he also acquired first-rate players like Alonso, Mascherano, Torres and Reina.

And how much of an impact did Luis Garcis have in the first couple of seasons? Much more than the £5m we shelled out for him would suggest

Don't get me wrong - I think he lost his way towards the end, didn't do himself any favours with his stand-off approach to player management and his refusal to believe in the intangibles such as team spirit - something the likes of Ferguson and Mourinho have turned into an art - but he was our best manager since Kenny and I think he ought to be entitled to a little more respect - especially from Liverpool fans

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Well said Jim. I bet none of the 'Haters' were hating him in May 2005.

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lets evaluate some of his signings shall we. He signed a relatively unknown Pepe Reina and Xabi Alonso, Pepe Reina is right now one of the best keepers in the EPL, and Alonso who is one of the midfielders in the world, and a star that is Fernando Torres that become the fastest liverpool player to 50 goals, lets see some more signings: Daniel Agger who on his day can be one of the best defenders in the world, he is almost Pique like. Dirk Kuyt, who has held liverpool on the brink of further denial with his hard work and determination.

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Originally Posted By: Jim Tonez
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who you talking about? if yr talking abt rafa have some respect for the man that got us number 5 and made us a force again. if you cant have a bit of respect for someone like that then you are just a c***


A bit harsh but I can't understand the outright hostility towards Rafa from some posters on here.

He got us into champions league every season he was at the club (excpt for the last one of course) and made us one of the big English European clubs again - something which didn't look remotely possible under Souness, Evans and even Houllier.

Also, for all the duds he signed he also acquired first-rate players like Alonso, Mascherano, Torres and Reina.

And how much of an impact did Luis Garcis have in the first couple of seasons? Much more than the £5m we shelled out for him would suggest

Don't get me wrong - I think he lost his way towards the end, didn't do himself any favours with his stand-off approach to player management and his refusal to believe in the intangibles such as team spirit - something the likes of Ferguson and Mourinho have turned into an art - but he was our best manager since Kenny and I think he ought to be entitled to a little more respect - especially from Liverpool fans
a bit harsh maybe but am sick of all the rafa haters and their lack a respect. he made mistakes but he also did alot of good(CL and the youth system). he signed some fanastic players along with some duds just like all managers. what they dont mention is MOST of his duds were signed at a time when his hands were tied by the two cowboys. i have alot of time and respect for him. when he left i was happy and sad at the same time. he did a good job but it was the right time to let him leave. am not saying no one should say anything against him but all ask for is a bit of respect.

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i dont mind the fact that raffa had short comings, but what really bothers me to the point of resenting him is his TOTAL failure to take ANY responsibility for his mistakes and failures. If he held his hands up on certain signings and the disasterous defensive system, then i'd say fair enough, he's an honest guy who did his best.. but the guy was not only falling short, he then insisted on taking over the running of all footblling aspects of the club, after which we got rapidly worse, and he STILL didnt take any responsibility. i cant stand people like that. they are dangerous with any kind of power and dont have the clubs best interest at heart.


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