Wow! Newcastle's st.james's park's seating capacity is more than ours! Shame on us.
so is sunderland and loads of grounds bigger than anfield , anfield has never had a big capacity the most was about 54,55 thousand when the kop was standing .
Red NS you may or may not be right about the managers. But lets keep the debate on the stadium / naming rights. Because you are quite correct this is the most important subject on this site. Managers / players come and go but your stadium is the club's very existence. Some will say no point in having a fantastic stadium and a rubbish team. But I say the two go together you must have both, top stadia and a top team if you are considered to be a world class club. Liverpool are that JUST but the decisions taken now will determine whether we stay at that status or become something like say Villa.
It's not off the topic tho is it, Dalglish said this week that in his opinion we should tart up our existing ground and when you have fans which hang off his every word like ours do then it becomes a vey big issue and one which is relevent to this topic.
Red NS I did not read Dalglish’s comments on the ground but if he thinks we should tart up Anfield that was very ill advised. Not just because it’s wrong decision wise but because it’s a very sensitive area. So he should have kept comments to footballing matters. However without hearing what he said and very importantly the context on which it was made it’s difficult to comment further. For example if a local journo asked him directly would it bother you staying at Anfield and he said no in context that is fine in my view. I know you experienced the Dalglish rein first hand back in 1991 and so did I. In my view like yours much of the rot on the field started back then when things unravelled. But the era before 1987 to 1990 was fantastic and having read Kenny’s book it’s quite clear he was suffering stress. I know because I have been through that myself and it does impact not just your judgement but your whole life. I was not in favour of his appointment but now he is I am 100% behind him. Also the improvement from January was quite spectacular and surprised me so his stock with me is growing. One thing for sure all the hero worshipers who in the most part were not born in 1991 will turn on him with a vengeance if he does not deliver as early as this season and 4th place is what will be deemed acceptable anything less and you watch these forums and the like. But that’s modern Football and that’s why they are paid so much. I am sure Kenny is aware of it as much as anybody. However he seems much more chilled these days and nothing would give me more pleasure that to see him achieve success at Anfield.
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Thanks Kop Swede very interesting. My reading of it their preferred solution is re-developing Anfield on the grounds of costs. But the planning is stopping them. Let’s hope this situation continues. This solution is what I always feared (the nightmare solution) and what I suspected the new owners were up to e.g. their sell on profit rather than what is better for the club. And you though Gillet and Hicks were the only ones who care about money first? Although both options would give a capacity of 60,000 the new stadium would have the flexibility to further expand whereas I assume Anfield would not due to cost and the transformation issues e.g. having to close parts of the ground mid season. The new stadium is the only option and it seems the naming rights and agreement of sponsor stand in the way. However this is only a question of timing. Therefore it is an absolute disgrace Liverpool city council are holding a gun to LFC’s head. If they mess up this deal then they will pay the price in local feeling. My reading of it is LFC have published the statement to highlight how the council are being difficult.
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The other thing I have picked up is re-furbishment of Anfield would take 4 years and be a hit to revenue as well as destroy the atmosphere which would imnpact Kenny's ability to turn us back into title contenders. No lets hope to god they get the naming rights for a new stadium which gives 60,000 intial capacity then option to expand in the future. Stanley Park if we must but never re-furb Anfield that would be crazy.
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Looking at other forums and consensus is its Stanley Park for sure now. The announcement they believe is to soften us those supporters who want to stay at Anfield. Sort of saying we have done all we can folks but...
I hope that is right.
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we need a new ground full stop if we were to redevelop it would mean playing matches on a building site and losing out on more money due to the stands being closed and also we would lose the atmosphere with less fans in the ground