KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum Downing for 16mil or we turn to Mata

It is pretty sound logic, I'd be happy if we were going for both. It has been suggested that spurs are the other team in for Mata. I think theres more weight behind the idea that it's us though.

I am gonna have to side with mybloodisred on this one. I think there are pretty clear indications that Downing is a priority, if in terms of nothing else, then in terms of the timing of his signing. If we are after both, as some of you seem to think, I still believe wrapping up the Downing deal is a priority. Having said that, I cannot see us getting Mata and Downing, I think they are 2 simillar players who play in simillar positions. I can agree that we might get Mata and Cazorla, or Downing and Cazorla, or perhaps Nzognia instead of one of them,but I cannot see us splashing out 35-45 million on 2 players who play in practically the same position. Before yo comment and say that Downing can play on the right, I know this, but his primary position and the one he is most comfortable in is on the left. Why would we pay 15-20 million for Downing, to play him in a position he is less comfortable in? That is why I don't think we will get Downing and Mata. It just doesns't make sense to me. If we get Downing, I feel he will play down the left and we will get another natural right winger. Us spending 35-45 million on 2 left wingers just doesn't make financial sense to me.

Well thats ok House, but the problem with that approach is that we miss out on all the pre season training tactical development etc. I would prefer if we went in for the best option (mata) and paid whatever is needed to get our no 1 man! We cant let the likes of A.V. decide our destiny by holding us to ransom till everyone else has got in ahead of us!

As good a player as Mata is (he isn`t as good as Silva) I just can`t see him being the winger we need, anyone who watches La Liga will know he doesn`t burst past people he tends to come inside. Downing has a proven record in the Prem League and that for me means he`s the better bet at present.

That is a very valid point you are making. Mata is great at cutting inside, and I have watched him alot of the past 2 years, but he doesn't burst down the wing and get past players to whip in crosses. As far as that is concerned,, Downing perhaps, may be the better option. Guess it's all up to the Tactics KK plans on employing. If we want a winger cutting in, i guess we could use Suarez for that, whereas if we want the crosses coming in we could use Downing. TBH honest, this thought didn't hit me before you mentioned it, but now that you have it makes a lot of sense. Perhaps that is why Downing has been our primary target.Well spotted.

Kenny has a track record in signing mainly british players - that's what he does. I can't find any stats at the moment but I reckon that throughout his whole managerial career he has probably signed 90% british, which makes the Mata deal seem like it has never really been on his radar.
Maybe.....Kenny has admitted to a lack of knowledge on the continent and THAT is why Commoli is here?

where do you get this nonsense from?

kennys first stint at Liverpool and at Blackburn was at a time when the English game couldnt attract top foreign players. They all went to italy & Spain. He did though sign Ronny Rosenthal and Glen Hysen are two that I can think of now. At Newcastle he signed Didi Hamman, Solano. I'm sure there's a whole list of more playings but I cant be arsed to find out.

The fact that you can only think of a handful of foreign Kenny signings, supports my claim which you call nonsense!

Read it again.

I have....and after careful consideration of your "argument" I'd like to follow up my original comment by saying:

"The fact that you can only think of a handful of foreign Kenny signings, supports my claim which you call nonsense!"

Reading it again changes nothing, unless you'd care to elaborate your point as you've proved nothing so far....