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Bandwagon followers, clearly. Have you noticed that not one person is able to give examples of things I am being accused of, despite me repeatedly asking for them? Carheex, You got examples from myself today and yet you choose not to see them and then state that no one gave you an example. Yes we did give you examples, you just chose to ignore them. I am afraid that tactic does not win you debates though. If you feel that you have lost a debate, put your hands up and say "ok, I might be wrong." Don't try convincing others they are silly. Anyways, back to the original story, who thinks that Mata has been turned into a primaary target, since Downings evaluation seems to be ridiculous. Sorry, but that's BS. No one has provided any examples which I have not acknowledged and responded to, either to correct myself or emphasise a point. You're lying. Regarding your point about Mata/Downing - Why would we pay more money for Mata than for Downing if Downing is our primary target? Surely, you'd pay more money for your top target, not the secondary? (note: this is all in theory though because i'm convinced that we're not in the market for Mata) Look, don't call me a liar because it's plain for all to see who is lying and who is in denial. Having said that, the reason we would pay more for a secondary target than a primry one is the resale potential. Mata is only 20 and has huge revenue generating potential, much bigger than Downing and his resale value is also much bigger. That's why we would pay more. I hope that answers your question. Just don't go saying later that I didn't answer it. Are you sure you understand the meaning of the word "example" as I cannot come up with any other reason for you not admitting the obvious.
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This is getting a bit ridiculous, to be fair. CarheeX, i think the problems people are having with you are down to what i see as your highly pedantic nature and your smart comments. You can come across as a bit insulting/dismissive/patronising to people. Nobody's going to take kindly to that. You may not mean to come across that way, but that's how it comes across, and i'm sure plenty will agree with that. That's not meant as an insult or an attack. It's just something to maybe be mindful of in future?  I accept that as a possibility, but I'm not the only one. What I do object to is people just jumping on that bandwagon when I have even communicated them. Totally un-necessary, I'm sure you'll agree. Bandwagons full..bloody health n safety...double decker bus on the way. 
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What about Downing now? Are we still going for him or Mata?
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Bandwagon followers, clearly. Have you noticed that not one person is able to give examples of things I am being accused of, despite me repeatedly asking for them? Carheex, You got examples from myself today and yet you choose not to see them and then state that no one gave you an example. Yes we did give you examples, you just chose to ignore them. I am afraid that tactic does not win you debates though. If you feel that you have lost a debate, put your hands up and say "ok, I might be wrong." Don't try convincing others they are silly. Anyways, back to the original story, who thinks that Mata has been turned into a primaary target, since Downings evaluation seems to be ridiculous. I think so, however have you noticed that Kenny keeps all forgien signings quiet e.g Suarez was kept quiet until we actually made an approach I don't think Kenny has any control over whether a signing is kept quiet or not as the agents will always "leak" the info as a bidding war is in their best interest. Why do you think he'd want a foreign signing kept quiet but not a british one? OK, so just explain one simple thing to me. If it is all about agents leaking out names and so on, why the hell is the other English club unnamed? Why did they not name the other club if it is in their interest. It is not always in their interest. For example, if the club is actually trying to hold onto the player, they will not leak the rumour that he could go because that will increase the number of bidders. So, while it might suit them in cases where they want to sell, or it might suit the agents, it doesn't always play out that way. HERE IS AN EXAMPLE of why I think you are just being a donkey. More than one person today has asked you the following "WHY HAS THE NAME OF THE OTHER ENGLISH CLUB NOT BEEN RELEASED?", yet you have failed to back up your theory and answer the question. THat my friend is an EXAMPLE, for everyone to see, so you cannot call me a liar later.
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This is getting a bit ridiculous, to be fair. CarheeX, i think the problems people are having with you are down to what i see as your highly pedantic nature and your smart comments. You can come across as a bit insulting/dismissive/patronising to people. Nobody's going to take kindly to that. You may not mean to come across that way, but that's how it comes across, and i'm sure plenty will agree with that. That's not meant as an insult or an attack. It's just something to maybe be mindful of in future? I accept that as a possibility, but I'm not the only one. What I do object to is people just jumping on that bandwagon when I have even communicated them. Totally un-necessary, I'm sure you'll agree. Yeah i absolutely do agree. I've already said a couple of times that i don't like to see witch-hunts, it's not right. If you don't mean to be patronising or insulting, and someone takes it up that way, the best way to approach it is to just nip it in the bud as soon as possible, before things escalate - as they seem to have done here!
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I don't Kenny will splash more than 20m on Downing, so I though he should set his sights on Mata. Which proably him and the team are doing
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This is getting a bit ridiculous, to be fair. CarheeX, i think the problems people are having with you are down to what i see as your highly pedantic nature and your smart comments. You can come across as a bit insulting/dismissive/patronising to people. Nobody's going to take kindly to that. You may not mean to come across that way, but that's how it comes across, and i'm sure plenty will agree with that. That's not meant as an insult or an attack. It's just something to maybe be mindful of in future? I accept that as a possibility, but I'm not the only one. What I do object to is people just jumping on that bandwagon when I have even communicated them. Totally un-necessary, I'm sure you'll agree. Yeah i absolutely do agree. I've already said a couple of times that i don't like to see witch-hunts, it's not right. If you don't mean to be patronising or insulting, and someone takes it up that way, the best way to approach it is to just nip it in the bud as soon as possible, before things escalate - as they seem to have done here! Yeah things do seem like they have escalated a bit, but make no mistake, whilst I agree that witch hunting and jumping on a bandwagon is unescessary and rude that is not what is happening here. Carheex reffered to my posts directly earlier on so I am replying to him as a result of that. Whatever problems others might have with him, i don't care about, but I do notice that a lot of people are upset with him. I don't see what anyone could get out of bashing him for no reason. I am simkply arguing with him over comments made to me directly!
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Agree with Downing high price-tag. He is 26 and for 20m is not a good business. He should cost in the region of 10-13m instead. I think we should go for Mata for 20m. More than what Arsenal is offering. I am sure Mata will provide us with the flair we've been missing in the team. If we get both, its even better.
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This is getting a bit ridiculous, to be fair. CarheeX, i think the problems people are having with you are down to what i see as your highly pedantic nature and your smart comments. You can come across as a bit insulting/dismissive/patronising to people. Nobody's going to take kindly to that. You may not mean to come across that way, but that's how it comes across, and i'm sure plenty will agree with that. That's not meant as an insult or an attack. It's just something to maybe be mindful of in future? I accept that as a possibility, but I'm not the only one. What I do object to is people just jumping on that bandwagon when I have even communicated them. Totally un-necessary, I'm sure you'll agree. Yeah i absolutely do agree. I've already said a couple of times that i don't like to see witch-hunts, it's not right. If you don't mean to be patronising or insulting, and someone takes it up that way, the best way to approach it is to just nip it in the bud as soon as possible, before things escalate - as they seem to have done here! Yeah things do seem like they have escalated a bit, but make no mistake, whilst I agree that witch hunting and jumping on a bandwagon is unescessary and rude that is not what is happening here. Carheex reffered to my posts directly earlier on so I am replying to him as a result of that. Whatever problems others might have with him, i don't care about, but I do notice that a lot of people are upset with him. I don't see what anyone could get out of bashing him for no reason. I am simkply arguing with him over comments made to me directly! Since this question was directed at the people arguing with Carheex, I would just like to say I am not jumping into anyone's bandwagon but mine. Why I used this thread to express my argument from a debate from another thread, is so I have conclusive proof of Careheex's, slightly crude arguements
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And once again, when he was confronted with a concrete question and an example, Carheex has left the building. Nowhere to be seen.
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