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Lol, my name isn't Bart, mate Robbie Fowler should never have been sold. And make no mistake about it, he was sold more for personal reasons rather than footballing reasons. He never let LFC down in the pitch in footballing terms. Even at the end when he wasn't getting starts, he came on as a sub a lot and bagged goals (including what should have been the winner in the UEFA Cup final before that ex-manc brought the game to ET with a goal in injury time).

As for the incident in training, the story went that Fowler nearly hit Thommo in the head with the ball and Thommo told him to watch it, and Fowler said that if he wanted to hit him, he would have. Fowler's always been a cheeky lad, which Thommo maybe could have realised, but he took it the wrong way, and was dropped from the squad for the next game if i remember correctly. Fowler has said in his autobiography that since leaving the club he's met Thommo at a few events and they made their peace and get on again.

I'm not sure what you mean about players getting beaten up in the toilets?!




He had a more than respectable goalscoring record for Leeds, so that's a pretty unfair comment. I know a couple of Leeds fans who loved him during his time there. Don't think he was a flop there by any stretch of the imagination, but i feel that his heart has always been at Anfield.

He did get a reasonable goal return for City and Leeds but he was injured nearly all the time and both clubs moved him on after a year or so. So its fair to say he was finished as a top fottballer and Liverpool did the right thing to move him on for £12m. He was attacked in the toilets in Liverpool and needed hospital treatment early one morning as you do. One of a number of incidents and if you live Liverpool as I do you will know its a small place and normally the rumours have a grain of truth in them. As you know the Everton fans used to taunt him about drug taking now I am sure he did not use drugs and having read his book he is quite clear on that and I believe him. But trouble found him regularly and that was not for no reason. It was a big reason for his career being cut short. And you don't boot the ball at the assistant manager cheeky chappie not not any more than you would slap your boss. Had his attitude and disciple been better he could have been one of the greats.

I think you're being a little harsh on him, man. Yeah, he's by no means an angel, and never has been. But i think he was a massive target for Everton fans, and put in that position living like that in your home city 24/7 i'd like to see how you or anybody else would deal with it. Especially when you see your family and family's home being targetted as a result. It's gotta be something that puts a lot of pressure and strain on you mentally. The impression i got was that he wasn't intentionally trying to hit Thommo, that it was an accident that the ball went near Thommo, but he didn't take too kindly to it, and it escalated a bit. His injury problems really dogged him, and he did decline way before his time.

There were many finest hours with him but my favourite (and I was there) were the two at OT on Cantona's comeback. The shot from the left past Schmeichel (probably the greatest keeper ever) and the chip. Even the Manchester evening news was raving about the goals. Never seen that happen before or since MEN I mean. He was a divi off the field though which ruined his career and you will never convince me otherwise. Excuses or not there was only one member of the squad who booted the ball at the assistant manager and who was it? Also Thompson and Houllier were under pressure for results great pressure at that time they would not have dropped him unless it was serious indiscipline. And if the grief he got from fans and his family was such a problem why be out on the raz regularly in Liverpool in places where you are going to get grief from evertonians hence the toilet attack? Like I say trouble found him regularly and you know yourself that is not just misfortune. It’s not being hard on him he earned millions and with that comes responsibility not just for the club and fans but your own body which as a footballer is your livelihood. I am sure he will look back with regret.

I remember that game well, Both unbelievable goals - especially liked the one where he chipped Rudolph - particularly for the way he pushed Dot Cotton away just before it, lol. He scored 2 good goals in the 2-0 win at Anfield over them that season too. Not many players get 4 league goals against Man Ure in a single season. There's undoubtedly a lot of truth in what you're saying, but i can't help but feel sympathy for the man. Yeah, he was well paid for doing what he did, but being in the public light, should he have just stopped living his life? He was a young lad. If it was me and you told me i couldn't go out on the lash with my mates, i'd tell you to f*ck off. Trouble did find him, because he was an easy target for his haters, and probably had too much pride and mouth to not always ignore them. Once again though, i'd sympathise with him there. Decline or not, in my eyes he'll always be one of the best players i've ever had the pleasure of watching, and to refer to the topic subject again, i don't think there's any doubt that he's been our best striker since the Premiership started.

If it was me and you told me i couldn't go out on the lash with my mates, i'd tell you to f*ck off.

Yes of course me too but I presume you are not paid £100k a week not to do that ?

You just can't do that mate when you a top premiership star any more than Wayne Rooney can no longer go the grafton. But you are right Robbie thought he could carry on as the Toxteth scally. It does not work that way. Your defence of his behaviour would work better if these events were one-off's but they were regular one after the other. Simulating snorting cocaine after scoring ok yes provoked but really come on where's the responsibility? You just DON'T do things like that if you have any common sense. He was not the only one though Collymore ran him a close second in the divi / wastefd career stakes.

The snorting the pitch markings in the derby was wrong, and a huge mistake on his part. Maybe you're right - maybe he does look back with a bit of regret. I can't help but feel sympathy for him for the trouble that constantly found him during his first stint at Liverpool though

torres was the best striker in the world, owen was a good player. torres scored 50 goals for lfc faster than anyone else. he scored 65 goals in 102 games (according to wiki so the figures might be a bit off) torres was simply better than owen.

Both Fowler and Owen never lived up to the huge potential both showed in their youth

By the age of 25 both if them were most or less finished - unable to reach the same heights they had shown earlier on

And it would be hard to avoid the same conclusion with Torres, following his utterly horrendous form at Chelsea

I agree

Owen was good, Fowler was very good but during those first two seasons Torres was sublime