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he must be getting one hell of a deal at LFC if he decided to not follow rafa to inter after they won CL


I think you'll find that while Rafa was keen on signing Jova, it was Roy who actually signed him


I think you'll find a pre contract agreement was already in place before roy.

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I think you'll find a pre contract agreement was already in place before roy.


a pre contract is not a contract .... if you remember rightly Roy fought for Jova as he was considering walking away from any deal when Rafa was sacked.

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Yep, he became Chairman in that year but was a major shareholder and had massive influence well before that date. And for over a decade afterwards he authorised the signings of players ten times the quality of the crap we are linked with now.

Can't deny he made a mistake in selling to Hicks & Gillett, but we all make them. The guy is not greedy, they were convincing bullsh!tters at the time.

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Originally Posted By: Mr Ruddock
Yep, he became Chairman in that year but was a major shareholder and had massive influence well before that date. And for over a decade afterwards he authorised the signings of players ten times the quality of the crap we are linked with now.

Can't deny he made a mistake in selling to Hicks & Gillett, but we all make them. The guy is not greedy, they were convincing bullsh!tters at the time.



Any supporter who followed Liverpool in that era would know we were declining before 1991. Not so much on the pitch but definitely off it. So all was not well before and Moores as a major shareholder must bear responsibility. I like to compare him to Martin Edwards at Manchester United both these men were not rich on the scale of Chelsea and City’s owners but were rich men by north west England standards. Manchester United saw the opportunities in merchandising and the premier league. Their strategy for their stadia was far sighted and has delivered the stadium befitting a top club. We are left with a small ground which is derelict in parts (Main Stand). Moores and the Liverpool board back then simply did nothing while all this was going on around them. Moore’s strategy for the stadium was to build three new stands then decide he needed a new stadium because he could not expand the capacity and the development was limited. Why he could not work that out before only he will know. But it was his total lack of commercial acumen that did for Liverpool. We are where are not because of Gillet and Hicks, Rafa, Hogdson, Houllier, Souness, Evans etc but because the club has had lower revenues than our rivals. A position that’s getting worse by the year even today. And really the opportunity for righting that position with a stadium rivalling Man Utd is probably lost. And the architect of all this is David Moores. And when the time came to sell Liverpool (having raped it) he sold to Gillet and Hicks for a few pieces of silver more and did no research on their background whatsoever. You can blame Parry for that but Parry was an employee Moores was the owner and he was both stupid and greedy. He cannot show his face at Anfield for that reason Liverpool fans should hate him with a venom far worse than Ferguson because he did for us big time. It was not Fergie that knocked us off our perch the reality is it was MOORES !!!.


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Yep, he became Chairman in that year but was a major shareholder and had massive influence well before that date. And for over a decade afterwards he authorised the signings of players ten times the quality of the crap we are linked with now.

Can't deny he made a mistake in selling to Hicks & Gillett, but we all make them. The guy is not greedy, they were convincing bullsh!tters at the time.



Any supporter who followed Liverpool in that era would know we were declining before 1991. Not so much on the pitch but definitely off it. So all was not well before and Moores as a major shareholder must bear responsibility. I like to compare him to Martin Edwards at Manchester United both these men were not rich on the scale of Chelsea and City’s owners but were rich men by north west England standards. Manchester United saw the opportunities in merchandising and the premier league. Their strategy for their stadia was far sighted and has delivered the stadium befitting a top club. We are left with a small ground which is derelict in parts (Main Stand). Moores and the Liverpool board back then simply did nothing while all this was going on around them. Moore’s strategy for the stadium was to build three new stands then decide he needed a new stadium because he could not expand the capacity and the development was limited. Why he could not work that out before only he will know. But it was his total lack of commercial acumen that did for Liverpool. We are where are not because of Gillet and Hicks, Rafa, Hogdson, Houllier, Souness, Evans etc but because the club has had lower revenues than our rivals. A position that’s getting worse by the year even today. And really the opportunity for righting that position with a stadium rivalling Man Utd is probably lost. And the architect of all this is David Moores. And when the time came to sell Liverpool (having raped it) he sold to Gillet and Hicks for a few pieces of silver more and did no research on their background whatsoever. You can blame Parry for that but Parry was an employee Moores was the owner and he was both stupid and greedy. He cannot show his face at Anfield for that reason Liverpool fans should hate him with a venom far worse than Ferguson because he did for us big time. It was not Fergie that knocked us off our perch the reality is it was MOORES !!!.
100% spot on its goes further back than moores back to smith and robinson who never took the club forward when it was successful , hicks and gillett were just another bunch of bad owners along the line .

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