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Thats just some guy being a smart arse, writing that stuff, and he knows it...judging by the way he keeps covering himself with "my fellow liverpool fans"and "I disapproved of Hodgson being appointed last summer", etc, etc. If he knew anything and smart arse's usually don't know much, he would know that there is no comparison between Kenny and Roy, there is no comparison between their record as managers and there is no comparison between their results with virtually the same team. The difference between him...or her, and the majority of LFC fans is that LFC fans know and appreciate the difference!

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Load of rubbish, the lot of it, that's what that post is. Would we have crucified Roy had he sold Torres for Carroll at 35m? Of course! But we would not have crucified him for spending the money, however, which is what the OP implies. We would have done so because Roy Hodgson would not have even the faintest idea of how to utilize the player in any way other than hoofball, which would see us playing like Fat Sam's Blackburn, just with higher overheads and lower expectations. Such a signing by Hodgson would have seen the second coming of Leeds United's fall from grace.

We didn't let Kenny get away with it either. The OP may not have noticed it, but the fans' jury on whether Carroll was a worthwhile signing is very much still out. Most pundits applaud it, particularly ex-LFC players (gee, didn't see that coming), but no one has actually said, "Carroll is worth every penny of that 35m". No one. Not even Kenny himself. That's worth bearing in mind before one decides that in the eyes of the fans Kenny can do no wrong.

Of course, one must also remember that he's the King for a reason. His experience in winning England's top flight both as a player and as a manager is second to none; not even Fergie has won the title as often. On the other hand, Hodgson won less than a handful of minor leagues more than two decades ago, and has brought nothing to the Premier League other than a way for his clubs to leave it. There is a vast gulf between the quality of these two managers, so please excuse us for being able to spot the lame duck, and for being unsurprised that he failed so miserably.

But we fans didn't make him fail - he did that all by himself, buying 5 poor players out of 6, with the one signing that seemed utterly against his type (Meireles) being the only one who has shown any promise. And yes, we saw that coming too, though we expected Joe Cole to have done better, so it's ironic Roy distanced himself from that particular signing, meaning he FAILED UTTERLY with 4 out of 4 signings that were definitely his. Even in the nightmares of the most passionate Rafa-hater does no one do worse than that.

Even if Carroll is a failure, at least Kenny got us to play football again, and with the help of the new owners banished the off the field antics that were ruining this club. Roy Hodgson was never going to succeed in such tasks, even had we all supported him the way emp did, because he was utterly out of his depth and thought he could somehow lower the expectations of a club that refuses to be allowed to fail.

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I dont think many would have put money on Roy getting us to 6th or 7th!or 8th.

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We will never know now but i think we cud have been 4th or 5th from bottom if Roy stayed! no one wanted to play for him.


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Oh! how we all suffered under Raffa! winning those trophies was an utter disgrace!


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SHOULD! but under Roy! WOULDNT.


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Originally Posted By: Rafarendum
I think that Roy was actually worse than Sounness. If we'd allowed him to stay for a few years (as emp wanted), we'd be destroyed for the next decade or so.


He made Souness look like Shanks.


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Originally Posted By: emp
are u shouting or does your female bits make you feel insecure up against my intimadating presence
I'm softly spoken! im definitely not insecure, its vicer verser! and why would Rafarendum intimidate me? wink

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It's absolutely true

I said weeks ago if it were Hodgson who was enquiring into the likes of Henderson, Jones et al he would have been slaughtered by exactly the same dim-witted peoiple who are currently praising the club for paying extortionate prices for such players

And let's face it. If we were signing Ben Thatcher, Peter Ramage and Paul Koncheskey these people would be saying it would be brilliant - unwilling or unable to take the red tinted specs off

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Originally Posted By: emp
are u shouting or does your female bits make you feel insecure up against my intimadating presence


as I said you have a high opinion of yourself. Nothing intimidating about your presence. Or is referring to female bits an attempt at intimidation? It's projecting your own vile insecurities. Are your tiny bits making you feel insecure?

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