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Just an extra point here. The "I'm worried" crowd seem to be worried not so much that we're spending money, merely that we're (interested in) overpaying for players who are not obvious fits with the illusion of competing for the title next season. And that's because competing for the title next season is not high on our agenda; we'll obviously try win it if we can maintain a top position come Feb/March, but that's not the ultimate goal for next season. The ultimate goal has to be top 4 and a final appearance in one of the cups (anyone can win a final on their day, so the goal must be to reach that stage and then encourage rather than force the players to win it). If we can do that, the players who snub us now will question their choices, and the players who might otherwise snub us will take note.
We need to continue to make such statements of intent while we're too far from reaching the summit. I think paying a lot of money for Carroll and Henderson will make selling clubs take note of Liverpool's intent, and that will cull the field of the chancers who would like to steal our players, eg Spurs. I'm not worried that we won't sign talented players. I'm worried that the supporters show too little faith in the way Kenny intends to put FSG's plan into action. We were united until the final day of the season - but now that there's nothing to talk about the doubters show their faces once more, sowing discord where frankly there is no reason to.
To those people I say this: Young went to United not because United is a better club, but because in his eyes United are the Premiership Champions and they reached the CL final, while Liverpool were only 6th best and did not excel in Europe. Any neutral player will make the same decision, so stop saying that Kenny is getting it wrong when he misses impossible targets. Our immediate goal is to make that choice more difficult (eg qualify for the CL at the end of next season), and they only trick up our sleeve right now to get quality players is to offer the selling club more money. We're buying a squad, so I hope that doesn't put your nose out of joint, but we're not buying a squad that will merely be a one-trick pony. I guarantee that Kenny Dalglish knows 100 times more about doing that than any "pundit" here, so relax and enjoy the summer.
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Kenny has his targets and has to pay the going rate,fans may feel its alot of money but if we could get the price down we would,no one knows if their worth the money until they start playing for us,so its no point worrying about something that you,I, or even kenny cant foresee! until the players get to play,its a matter of wait and see.Plenty of players who have big names and price tags have come to us and this league and have failed! players don't come with guaranteed success tags!.
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We have to remember the bosses (not Kenny), have already outlined their strategy for the club, and I think the recent acquisitions have reflected accurately.
Whether it will work or not, only time will tell, but I am glad that the club is buying this 'British Talent', albeit at a cost, as the existing crew have reached their prime and this is what the future LFC will look like.
Basically, we have got a 'new Gerrard' with Henderson, a 'new Carra' if we get Dann and all I can say is MORE PLEASE!
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What i hate about people crying about 35 million for Carroll, Comolli said in January that the deal was
"Liverpool will pay Newcastle 15 million less than what we get for Torres"
So even though that's what we paid its not really his value. Maybe 20 mil for Carroll in a normal market. So trust in the King.
We haven't signed Downing yet. And I have heard many managers before rumoured to get Downing, Barry etc It doesn't work that way. Doesn't mean chavs are stupid enough to pay 50m for torres means we must pay stupid prices for other players. 50m, if spent wisely, can yield a few much better world class players than carroll and henderson combined.
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If we're paying £20m for players as average as Henderson a few things become clear
1) No one wants to come to us - Charles N'Zogbia was so horrified by the idea that he chose to go back to Newcastle despite having burnt his bridges with Newcastle fans - that says it all really - whereas 'ambitious; youngsters like Ashley Young amd phil Jones would rather sit oin united's bench - that play in our starting 11
2) Without European football to offer - for the first time since Houllier's first full season in charge - we have to pay premium prices to get even half-decent English players
I'd rather we took the Houllier approsach and scouted the fireign market for talent - afterall he did pick up the likes of Hyypia, Riise and Camara for next to nothing - and they were good players (Hyypia & Riise certainly)
It's not about catching united, it's about getting back into the top 4 and with the type of players we seem capable of attacting, that seems as far away as ever and i see another mid-table finish next season
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So because Zog doesn't want to join us it says what exactly?
That job interview was going so well until I realized I was fukked up on acid in the middle of a cornfield naked and talking to a scarecrow.
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ashley young is 26 next month hardly a youngster
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So even though since Kenny and especially Suarez arrived, we were top 4 point wise for a good run in the closing months. You think we go backwards dumping deadwood like Cole and adding new players? How do we get worse getting depth some potential? We were certainly not mid table performance wise once Suarez got his feet wet.
So much pessimism and we have 3 weeks still before the European market opens.
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Too many pundits and 'experts' in here.  Let the REAL experts do the negotiating and purchasing I say. Faith, I have in them, that's why they are employed by LFC, not US lot. Feet up now. Chilled beer and the remote please 'Lain. 
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This article should put the prices in perspective when you take inflation into account we're not paying over the odds, for instance apparently Heskey fee of 10m 11years ago translates into a modern transfer fee of 32.9m, now that is paying over the odds http://transferpriceindex.com/2011/06/the-english-premium-a-2011-transfer-price-index-review/
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