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I also take the point and understand your scepticism about Kuyt, but i think its also to remember, Kuyt was given 4 months at the start of his Liverpool career (going from the Dutch league) playing up front. Then it was quickly deciding he wasnt cutting it and was shipped out wide and never allowed back in.... until Kenny came in and had some faith in him and he found a player on his wave length in Suarez.
And hes never looked back. Its also extremely unfair on him that all the credit he ever gets is his work rate, if you'll notice that with Suarez his impressive moves isnt running 20 miles but in the intricate 1 - 2's and the sublime through balls and other areas he didn't even know he had.
Although the pairing for up front is Carroll and Suarez i still think until Carroll proves himself our best front 2 is kuyt suarez. This is Liverpool f.c and until you prove your on fire you can watch from the sidelines.
(also a great front 3 if were playing that formation)
Suarez--Carroll---Kuyt -----Raul----Stevie G --------Lucas--------- i dont like 433 for a few reasons, carroll isn't mobile enough to play in a good 433. it wouldn't get the best out of gerrard or meireles, and playing suarez out of position makes no sense at all, he is probably our best player so he should be played where he is best
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you think we need a CB more than a LB? yes, i think we need to spend more money on a centre half especially if we release soto. theres johnson, kelly, aurelio, flanagan, robinson and also wilson who can do a job there. if soto goes we're left with the ever injured agger, an ageing carra and the ever present but inconsistent skrtel think about it! you can't teach experience when it comes to centre halves
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you think we need a CB more than a LB? yes, i think we need to spend more money on a centre half especially if we release soto. theres johnson, kelly, aurelio, flanagan, robinson and also wilson who can do a job there. if soto goes we're left with the ever injured agger, an ageing carra and the ever present but inconsistent skrtel think about it! you can't teach experience when it comes to centre halves if we let soto go we still have carra, agger, skrtel, wilson, kelly and maybe ayala. all those players are CB's (even though i prefer kelly as a RB) at LB we have aurelio who gets injured sneezing and robbo who is 17 and green as grass. so how in the world do we need a CB more than a LB?
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As we are not in Europe there is absolutely no excuse for fielding weakened teams in the cup competitions. We haven’t won a trophy since 2006 – which is quite frankly disgraceful for a club of our stature, especially when you look at the money we’ve spent and the players that have come in and out since then
Of course our main objective will be to get as high as we can in the table but I don’t share the confidence of those on here (probably the majority) who think we’re going to win the league just because Kenny is in charge
A more realistic approach would be top 4 in the league (very difficult but certainly possible) and a trophy (or a final at the very least). Getting knocked out by the likes of Reading and Northampton is simply unacceptable – regardless of what team we field
And to do that we need a left back and centre back good enough to make the starting 11, two wide attacking players – on both flanks – at least one of whom can walk into the starting 11 and a good-quality back-up striker to Kuyt, Carrol and Suarez
If Aquilani is sold (and it looks as if he will, and for a cut-price deal too which heaps insult onto injury) then we will need another central midfielder – and a Charlie Adam who doesn’t cost more than £10-12m fits the bill
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centre half is a much more important position than full back imo. i think we will have to spend bigger in that area therefore makes it more important than fullback. like i said you can't teach experience when it comes to a centre back. out of kelly, ayala and wilson theres not a lot but 2 of those can also play fullback. how long was carra a fullback before he move to CB? its an extremely important position for me. more important than a left back
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centre half is a much more important position than full back imo. i think we will have to spend bigger in that area therefore makes it more important than fullback. like i said you can't teach experience when it comes to a centre back. out of kelly, ayala and wilson theres not a lot but 2 of those can also play fullback. how long was carra a fullback before he move to CB? its an extremely important position for me. more important than a left back Carrager was a utility player before finding a permanent home as a centre back He played in midfield (scoring a goal too) in his first appearance as a Red, had an ill-fated season as a centre back during the 1998-99 campaign, and then alternated as right back and Left back up until 2004 when rafa shifted him to centre half But in today's game full backs as just as important as centre backs - to the point where they are now viewed as primarily attacking players Carragher never had the pace and was too defensive-minded to make a great full back - although he played very well at left-back during the treble-winning season In today's game you need full backs able to bomb up and down the flanks ands for all of Carragher's assets that's not something he can do
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in general terms CB is more important, but to us LB is a massive hole in our starting 11, its not like carra has gotta go on forever there is a summer transfer window every year and carra easily has another year in him, im not a fan of skrtel but id rather have him at CB than aurelio at LB. LB is a huge hole in our first 11 CB isn't therefore LB is more important to us this summer
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in general terms CB is more important, but to us LB is a massive hole in our starting 11, its not like carra has gotta go on forever there is a summer transfer window every year and carra easily has another year in him, im not a fan of skrtel but id rather have him at CB than aurelio at LB. LB is a huge hole in our first 11 CB isn't therefore LB is more important to us this summer LB gas been a problem since Riise left Aurellio did a solid job in the 2008-09 campaign, putting in consistently good performances but then for the next campaign he spent a lot of time injured and was replaced by the inexperienced Insua - another full back who was better at attacking than defending He left at the start of this season and Roy decided to buy Konchesky, which the less said about the better So peversely our best left back this season was Glen johnson - who's a right back
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we need LB, CB first - no preference for which comes in first, but both must be top quality. with a top LB and CB we have cover across the back 4 (Glen being able to play on either flank, Kelly cover for CB and RB, Flano and Robbo to come through, Carra to gradually retire). The best teams tend to have the best defenses, not just in terms of leaking few, but in keeping it tight and not conceding during tight games. We leak a lot of goals, so it's not just that we're weak at either LB or CB, but rather that we weak at both and therefore both need equal attention. If we're only getting one, then we need an LB more because we have no natural player in the position,
then winger. we need width, otherwise we wasted a lot of money on Carroll. but that doesn't mean we don't know how to score, even though we failed to do so in the last two games.
bottom line for me is that these 3 positions ALL need to be filled this summer, and if that costs 60m then FSG must put up. Sakho, Baines, Mata is probably my selection at this point.
then backups for striker and DM. young striker, experienced DM, squad quality. can wait until Jan or even next season given that we're out of Europe, but I suspect a talent like Connor Wickham won't be available after this transfer window.
then filler. utility players like Kuyt or Lucas to make up the numbers so that injuries don't catch us with our pants down again, but these can probably also wait.
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What posistion do we need to sign players?
I think it's traditional to have them sitting down in a comfortable chair at a level desk where they can sign the contract quickly and with ease.
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