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What's your point? Do you have a problem with a manager being supportive and celebrating his teams successes? I'd have no problem with him showing that kind of passion for us - it's just what we need.

Are you suggesting "the nicest smile in football" is not what we need?

I'm struggling to follow your logic, seriously struggling. You want Mourinho when he doesn't want us and most of the fans don't want him because he personifies the kind of mercenary egotism that is anathema to Liverpool FC. You almost certainly didn't like the manner in which Mascherano abandoned us, but you desperately want a manager who will behave the same? (If you did not desperately want this you would not have tried to demean KD by claiming he's no better than RH)

Mourinho might bring us a title, but then he'll leave, and we won't we better for it in the long term. Look at how his teams have struggled the season after he quit. Don't say "It shows what a great manager he is"; were he such a great manager he wouldn't chop and change his club so often, picking only clubs that just need one last push to silverware and then moving on when he realizes they can't hack it any more. He does have something about him; no one can deny that. But he is as much a fit with LFC as Roy was, though for different reasons. Be careful what you wish for, is all I'm saying.

We need a builder right now, and if you're honest with yourself you'll see we're not going to find a foreign manager fit for that task. This is not a racist comment, merely stating the fact that an outsider has nothing invested in the club, so failure is excusable to them. They would not see the long term success of LFC as tantamount to their life's work. We don't necessarily need someone who will win the title next season, but we do need someone who cares about the club, cares about our football, and "gets" LFC and the fans. Right now there are only two such managers - Kenny and Rafa. And we all know we'd pick Kenny because he currently has the position, has restored pride in our position on the EPL table, and because Rafa allowed his arrogance to get in the way of managing the football team.

The fact that Kenny has a better or equal EPL points return than all but England's top 2 clubs (and without the luxury of time to assess the squad first hand) suggests that his ability to manage LFC is far beyond what Roy brought to the table; that you even dare compare them based on Roy's success in Europa qualifiers is, frankly, an insult to the intelligence of everyone on this board. Your argument smacks of the "Roy's not so bad" argument that went around last year, claiming that his overall win% meant he was actually the right man for the job, even though we were in the EPL relegation zone after 8 league games.

My problem is that i dont want an egotistical c*nt like moroninho coming here to use this club to boost his sad little ego,put a few cups on his CV then leave for another adventure after a couple of years,he can f*ck right off.

So 5 wins and 2 losses is not acceptable to you, even though it's 15 points? You happily sack a manager that did that, right? Please explain what you consider "good"?

Aside: extrapolating 5-0-2 to a full season [27-0-11] yields 81 points, btw.

You realize how much of an idiot you look now, right? Having just claimed (at length) that Kenny is not up to the task, you're happy to accept an essentially equivalent points return per game (1.85) for the rest of the season to that he has achieved thus far in the EPL (1.81). Which side of the fence are you on? It does look a tough ask given that Gerrard and Agger won't feature in another game and all our fullbacks are injured, but you're just digging the hole deeper arguing in this fashion.

Supplemental. Undefeated and 13 points is okay. Defeated and 13 points is not okay, yes? It's still 13 points, though, and given our injuries and fixtures I'd say it's far more likely that we go 4-1-2 than 3-4-0. (eg lose to city and arsenal, draw one on the road, win the rest, and have a big showdown against Spurs at Anfield in what may be a dead rubber game to decide over 90 minutes whether Kenny makes the grade or not - win and he's in, otherwise he's no better than that guy Hodgson)

here, here mourinho is c*nt fck

No need to be so abusive. I can hardly be called an idiot for expressing an opinion; So our opinions on the manager differ - calm down ffs!
Regarding the 3 wins and 4 draws comment - I was being realistic and taking into consideration the available players and the teams we are up against. Under the circumstances setting the manager a target of winning 5 of our last games (when we can't even beat hodgson's west brom, or west ham) would be pointless. Targets need to be challenging, yet realistic and achieveable or you'll get nowhere.

But Kenny is 60 and he won't be around for long either. The players that worked under Mourinho love him to bits. His success is beyond debate. Why wouldn't you not want that at our club? If he delivered us a league title would you not be chanting his name? I've looked on him as a bit of a tw@ in the past but if I'm honest that is out of jealousy because I am convinced that he could be working his magic at anfield. He's desperate to get back in the premiership so the risk of him sodding off for another adventure is vastly reduced.

Just found this on wikipedia from a few years back (not the be all and end all of resources but the original source is referenced and credible:

Liverpool are a team that interests everyone and Chelsea does not interest me so much because it is a new project with lots of money invested in it. I think it is a project which, if the club fail to win everything, then [Roman] Abramovich could retire and take the money out of the club. It's an uncertain project. It is interesting for a coach to have the money to hire quality players but you never know if a project like this will bring success.
Liverpool offered their managerial position to Spanish coach Rafael Benítez and Mourinho instead accepted a large offer from Roman Abramovich and pledged his immediate future to Chelsea.


I'd like to think he still regards us highly and that his recent " i want to be back in the premiership " comments are a thinly disguised come and get me plea to Liverpool.

Mourinho has already said he would never work with Liverpool, he even said he would go to Everton before managing Liverpool. He is nt coming to Liverpool. Move on.