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Spot on.
He puts himself first followed by his hairdresser and tailor. I'm not sure the fans and the club make it into his top 5 priorities!

And I disagree that 3-4-0 is realistic, not least because only United and Chelsea have been unbeaten in 7 at some stage during the course of this season. We're in a position where we will need to attack to win, Evans-style, and that's unlikely to lead to more draws than wins with no losses. Going undefeated for 7 games with no fewer than 4 first choice players injured (our captain and 3 of our starting back 4) with games against City with a fit-again Teves, and a trip to the Emirates to play Arsenal who must win in order to have a shot at the title is not realistic at all.

3-4-0 is the kind of target one would set Hodgson, a bottom table target, where everything goes wrong should even one game not go according to plan. 5-0-2 is a target for a top table side, allowing for referees to get it wrong and players to be injured at the wrong time but by necessity instilling a winning attitude in the players that sustains them through dry spells (look at Man U for the last 3 seasons for evidence of how it works), and where an extra draw leaves you with exactly the 13 points you want, a points total good enough to reach a CL place when extrapolated over a season. "Aim for the sky and you'll reach the ceiling. Aim for the ceiling and you'll stay on the floor" Bill Shankly.

Furthermore, the points total you demand is essentially the same as his average thus far in the EPL (the difference is 0.3 of a point over 7 games). If you weren't happy with his ability to get 1.8 points a game in the league up to now given the disruption in the squad during the transfer window and his late appointment, why would it satisfy you now, knowing that he's forced to field a back 4 made up of squad players everyone loves to hate?

For me it's not that Kenny can do no wrong. He's got us to 6th and unless something dramatic happens that's where we'll finish the season. Considering that 9 months ago no one thought anyone could do anything with "Rafa's pathetic squad", which finished 7th. Considering that 3 months ago we were in contention to remain outside the top 10, with a manager raging at the fans who in turn raged back, and would likely have traded Torres for either Carlton Cole or David N'Gog. I think Kenny's done well enough both on and off the pitch to sign on for a bit longer in order to maintain continuity while FSG settle in and assess targets.

You however still feel the need to test him further, by daring him to continue in the manner that he has! What exactly will that prove? Either challenge him properly, but allow some leeway if he misses your high target, or look at the difference on the table between 3 Jan and now and keep your grumbling to yourself because you are wrong to compare him with Roy.

probably yeah t'was those fck's that put mourinho off us, but i think he destined for utd replacing fergie is a big job and his ego would love it

All this perceived anger from you comes down to one tiny little detail. You are ignoring non-premier league games to suit your agenda, whilst I'm basing my opinion on the bigger picture. Both angles are ok, honestly.

Even more reason for us to get him then. With Jose in charge at Utd, we wouldn't have a cat in hell's chance of staying on top in terms of european cups/CL wins and as for league titles....they'd disappear off into the distance and we'd have to listen to Utd's taunts for eternity.

No anger here, mate; mostly amusement actually. Your argument is based upon a false premise that you refuse to acknowledge - you remind me of emp a few months back. You're ignoring how poor the opposition Hodgson faced in his non-premier games was to suit your agenda, which is not to look at the larger picture but to invent the argument that we need Mourinho, when not only do we not need a new manager we especially don't need Mourinho.



How will he help us? Win a title (assuming he can even do that without 100s of millions of pounds) and then leave us in much the same boat we're in now? This is not the way to defend the record you believe we need to extend next season.

The way to maintain our proud record is to build a squad that can challenge for the title every season for a decade rather than merely do so for one season. Have you learned nothing from the comparative careers of Rafa and Fergie? Mourinho has no record whatsoever of being able to do this, and he lacks the staying power when the going gets tough. We need a career manager, someone who will retire in the post the way the great managers have done: Shankly, Paisley, Fagan, Dalglish (of the 80s), Whisky Nose. Mourinho cannot hold a candle to any of those managers.

Whether the Dalglish of today is a match for the Dalglish of the past remains to be seen, but giving Commolli two years to find the right man while the incumbent has nothing but the club's best interests at heart is not going to be worse than hiring a braggart interested only in winning silverware with as many different teams as possible. Not only is Mourinho not the right man for the job, like Hodgson he is the wrong man for the job.