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no are 4 years old ????????????!
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listen if people are to put on these threads about benitez making him out to be some sort of superman clean lilywhite well sorry i will put my point over which i think which i know for some if hard to take because of the way you all look at him through you rose tinted glasses they way it was , yes he brought success but also failed big time as well and tried to play politics instead of doing his job .
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no are 4 years old ????????????! I think you missed my point.
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yes he deserves respect for the success he brought but also he deserves abuse and stick for the crap players and crap squad he left the club with and his i am bigger than the club attitude , plus the biggest thing the washing of the clubs dirty linen in public week after week which was self motorvated , his stint at inter milan showed it was all about him , and the way he is made out to be some sort of saint-like person whiter than white butter wouldnt melt character is unbelievable , didnt someone in one of these benitez love-in thread say he was a better manager than bob paisley . Nobody has said he was whiter than white. All thats being said is the guy desrves a little more respect for what he did achieve.
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no are 4 years old ????????????! I think you missed my point. well mate you miss the point everytime about benitez . i know what you think i am some kid who knows nothing well mate couldnt be further from the truth , and its not me who makes him out to be this lilywhite character and it wasnt me who said he was a better manager than Sir Bob Paisley .
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yes he deserves respect for the success he brought but also he deserves abuse and stick for the crap players and crap squad he left the club with and his i am bigger than the club attitude , plus the biggest thing the washing of the clubs dirty linen in public week after week which was self motorvated , his stint at inter milan showed it was all about him , and the way he is made out to be some sort of saint-like person whiter than white butter wouldnt melt character is unbelievable , didnt someone in one of these benitez love-in thread say he was a better manager than bob paisley . Nobody has said he was whiter than white. All thats being said is the guy desrves a little more respect for what he did achieve. i have said that he deserves credit for the success but also he deserves the stick for his washing of the clubs dirty linen in public and the dire dire players and squad he left us with .
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I think your getting a little insecure.
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rafa gave us pacheco, for that he deserves a knighthood 
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I can't imagine if we had other managers instead of rafa during the dumb and dumber days. Rafa was the one who kept us afloat and alive during those dark days. Despite all the odds against us on the financial front, we were still challenging in the european front and were often in semis of CL.
Tell me, which other manager could have done what he achieved with such limited resources?
Mourinho? Don't make me laugh. He will only work if you give him 100m blank check.
Hodgson? We would have been in league 2 if he had been in-charge 2-3 years ago.
Houllier? - if he's that good he won't have been sacked.
The only person whom I can think of who would have done quite as good a job as rafa was Gus Hiddink. But he was not available. Or rather, he would rather coach chavs than us.
So for all nincompoops who have been slagging off rafa - give an alternative manager who would have done a better job than he did during those dark days when we had almost zero funds to work with. If you don't have any suggestions, then keep the mouth shut before you slag rafa off.
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I can't imagine if we had other managers instead of rafa during the dumb and dumber days. Rafa was the one who kept us afloat and alive during those dark days. Despite all the odds against us on the financial front, we were still challenging in the european front and were often in semis of CL.
Tell me, which other manager could have done what he achieved with such limited resources?
Mourinho? Don't make me laugh. He will only work if you give him 100m blank check.
Hodgson? We would have been in league 2 if he had been in-charge 2-3 years ago.
Houllier? - if he's that good he won't have been sacked.
The only person whom I can think of who would have done quite as good a job as rafa was Gus Hiddink. But he was not available. Or rather, he would rather coach chavs than us.
So for all nincompoops who have been slagging off rafa - give an alternative manager who would have done a better job than he did during those dark days when we had almost zero funds to work with. If you don't have any suggestions, then keep the mouth shut before you slag rafa off. i think i speak for everyone when i say "i'll say what the fck i want to say" and also if rafa never did anything wrong he'd have kept his job and we'd be competing in the CL so don't go on like rafa made a mistake he also the man who brought skrtel,sissoko,jan kronkamp,josemi,jovanovic,morientes,babel,insua, so rafa deserves a lot of slagging off for a lot of things and a lot of praise but the man made plenty of mistakes
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