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#114631 05/03/11 02:18 AM
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Neither is Jova and many others, Pacheco at least is better than any of them and is young enough to improve. We know what we get from Jova, Maxi and the others. They are old, slow and offer nothing but big wages. Pacheco should be given some games.

Fowler78 #114633 05/03/11 02:23 AM
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i agree fowler, its ok to say pacheo is no good but jovonovich does nothing, therefor nothing to lose, i am not saying pacheo is a top player cos at the moment i dont' think he is even close but he is young and presumably wants to play unlike jovonorich

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He can't be on the bench cause he's not impressed Kenny but surprising that he hasn't got some game time...

On the comment I'd play him instead of Ngog...I'd play my Granny over Ngog...I just don't like him he must be the best trainer in the world my heart sinks when he comes on..he's slow,weak on the ball, constantly gets caught offside and gives away so many stupid freekicks..I understand that he probably has admirers but I'm not one...You would of never guessed wink

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I would deff have him over ngog

They play different positions, so how can you justify that?
he usually plays just behind the striker but if he was a bit strounger i would deff give him a place on our bench and start him ahead of ngog but we are all entitled to are opinions.....


We are entitled to our opinions, but if you're going to take a striker out of the squad in order to field yet another "player off the striker", aren't you cutting off your nose to spite your face? Someone actually has to go out there and be the striker, you know, and right now that guy is either Kuyt (questionable ability) or Carroll (injured). N'Gog allows you to play a more natural formation, even if he is not as technically gifted as Pacheco; football is a team game, after all.

Once Carroll is fit enough to start every game, then we might have time for Pacheco on the bench in place of N'Gog, but that is not the present. I highlight "might" since Suarez and Gerrard are automatic first team picks that cover for the same, and only role Pacheco can play; which explains why Shelvey gets much more game time than Pacheco (shuffle a first teamer into the attack and bring into the midfield a hot prospect who has taken the chances given). Sadly for Pacheco he will struggle to break into the first team as it stands no matter how good he is, which is why I continue to maintain he should have gone out on loan in January. So you see, Pacheco is not in competition with N'Gog, which was my point; one clearly well over your head.

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I would deff have him over ngog

They play different positions, so how can you justify that?
he usually plays just behind the striker but if he was a bit strounger i would deff give him a place on our bench and start him ahead of ngog but we are all entitled to are opinions.....


We are entitled to our opinions, but if you're going to take a striker out of the squad in order to field yet another "player off the striker", aren't you cutting off your nose to spite your face? Someone actually has to go out there and be the striker, you know, and right now that guy is either Kuyt (questionable ability) or Carroll (injured). N'Gog allows you to play a more natural formation, even if he is not as technically gifted as Pacheco; football is a team game, after all.

Once Carroll is fit enough to start every game, then we might have time for Pacheco on the bench in place of N'Gog, but that is not the present. I highlight "might" since Suarez and Gerrard are automatic first team picks that cover for the same, and only role Pacheco can play; which explains why Shelvey gets much more game time than Pacheco (shuffle a first teamer into the attack and bring into the midfield a hot prospect who has taken the chances given). Sadly for Pacheco he will struggle to break into the first team as it stands no matter how good he is, which is why I continue to maintain he should have gone out on loan in January. So you see, Pacheco is not in competition with N'Gog, which was my point; one clearly well over your head.
nothing i can say to that if i argueded with you i'd be wrong because i agree with all the points you made and i deff agree that he should of been loaned out to get some 1st team games under his belt. :L


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Trying to not say anything more on this thread as I keep noticing it up there with the rest but I just want to say lads, If king kenny spots something in this lad like he did with kelly then rest assured he will play games and big games too. I think Once Carroll is fit again and is our mainstriker like thundyr has mentioned, he will play as a sub roll coming on for meireless/suarez but until then I think he won't fit because as you guys mentinoed he isn't a natural striker. I trust kenny to play him if he is as talented as people think. Lets put this topic to bed.


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